Just sitting here hitting F5 waiting for a link to a live feed...

[Capt. Lucky]

We're keeping the "lights on" at broadsword.... the lights will always be on at UO. There's 10-15 free shards with like 7-8 people at Moonglow right now. Don't get me wrong, it's because there is no "Luna" and other stuff usually... it's classic, good style UO.... but the lights are definitely on other places besides OSI. Just ask any of the pvp'ers. And they don't even make up a fraction of any free shards.... just like in OSI.

** ****** with a white wyrm and nightmare tanking Ancient Wyrms for "Vanquishing, Supremely Accurate, Indestructible, Silver Katanas" is where it's at... if you really want to play UO. Not doing Shadowguard over... and over... and over... and over... for a "talisman" collection. Like I said... UO sucks now "on OSI." There are 10,000 players out there on free shards that would tell you the same thing. It's just the housing/decorating on OSI that makes it fun. Expect the world to become rather.... empty. I think you will soon see how utterly empty other shards other than Atlantic really are, sadly. This is a bad can of wyrms. Huge open housing spots are eye sores...

There's a simple solution to all this. Pay for what you use and the game your playing. Very simple Sure make everything free and I'm sure we'd gain a few 100K subscribers, but life doesn't work that way. I've played the free shards to check them out and they're a joke. Just people that play there only cause it's free and no other reason. Sure it's better than nothing I suppose. If someone can't come up with a spare 15 bucks a month they got bigger problems than UO. As far as it goes Endless Journey will address most of these issues and it's a brilliant idea.

 

[The Craftsman]

There's a simple solution to all this. Pay for what you use and the game your playing. Very simple Sure make everything free and I'm sure we'd gain a few 100K subscribers, but life doesn't work that way. I've played the free shards to check them out and they're a joke. Just people that play there only cause it's free and no other reason. Sure it's better than nothing I suppose. If someone can't come up with a spare 15 bucks a month they got bigger problems than UO. As far as it goes Endless Journey will address most of these issues and it's a brilliant idea.

Again, utter nonsense. I have a very high disposable income so it's not in any way about what is free and what is subscription based. It's about the rule set, the gameplay and to some extent the policing of the game. If a game is worth the money I'd happily shell out for it. And I do for several games.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Again, utter nonsense. I have a very high disposable income so it's not in any way about what is free and what is subscription based. It's about the rule set, the gameplay and to some extent the policing of the game. If a game is worth the money I'd happily shell out for it. And I do for several games.

LOL. Okay dude. I invite anyone to go visit some and let them decide for themselves. I suppose you have a unicorn in real life too lol

 

[The Craftsman]

LOL. Okay dude. I invite anyone to go visit some and let them decide for themselves. I suppose you have a unicorn in real life too lol

I'm sure there are quite a few deserted free shards out there. Hell there are plenty of deserted EA shards. There are however several free shards with better rule sets, better support than the EA shards and certainly more than a few with higher populations than all but Atlantic.

Stop posting this drivel. You quite obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I'm sure there are quite a few deserted free shards out there. Hell there are plenty of deserted EA shards. There are however several free shards with better rule sets, better support than the EA shards and certainly more than a few with higher populations than all but Atlantic.

Stop posting this drivel. You quite obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Hey ya wanna buy a unicorn in real life too? hahahah

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I'm sure there are quite a few deserted free shards out there. Hell there are plenty of deserted EA shards. There are however several free shards with better rule sets, better support than the EA shards and certainly more than a few with higher populations than all but Atlantic.

Stop posting this drivel. You quite obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Anytime Stratics wants to start enforcing the TOS that would be greeeeeat..... "Posts containing or linking to pirated or otherwise illicitly acquired copyrighted content."

 

[The Craftsman]

Hey ya wanna buy a unicorn in real life too? hahahah

There are no such things as unicorns in real life, as I am sure you are aware. Not sure why you continuously spout this meaningless nonsense.

 

[Fridgster]

Hey ya wanna buy a unicorn in real life too? hahahah

There are a few free shards I would wager have real close to what EA has.

 

[Fridgster]

Anytime Stratics wants to start enforcing the TOS that would be greeeeeat..... "Posts containing or linking to pirated or otherwise illicitly acquired copyrighted content."

So.... ummm... where was the violation?

 

[Polaris75]

There's a simple solution to all this. Pay for what you use and the game your playing. Very simple Sure make everything free and I'm sure we'd gain a few 100K subscribers, but life doesn't work that way. I've played the free shards to check them out and they're a joke. Just people that play there only cause it's free and no other reason. Sure it's better than nothing I suppose. If someone can't come up with a spare 15 bucks a month they got bigger problems than UO. As far as it goes Endless Journey will address most of these issues and it's a brilliant idea.

I thought you finished replying two days ago? We've already discussed this in depth... And no offense, but I am sure I pay more for UO than you do... as my whole family plays, we have 3 constant accounts too. If I can pay a little extra and just build a house, it's good for the game. If you want to help Broadsword and Ultima more than we do... by all means, please buy 12 houses and pay all of the accounts. Go for it. That does not mean you have more money than me or anything relating to the real world though.... get over that man.

 

[AtlanticRealtor]

You can think whatever you want, you can say whatever you want, everybody have their own game plan and style.
The Fact is:

I keep 25 active accounts all the time: $120 a year each x 25 = $3000 a year

at least 40+ more holding houses worldwide (shards/Storage), paying every 90 days, there is like AN ADDITIONAL $1000 A YEAR just to keep houses and plots all over the places, you can say whatever you want, right or wrong, idc as I said b4, but the reality is, a LOT of people like me, that own all these extra accounts/Houses, the moment they take that "option" out, will be the moment that I will turn all those EMPTY accounts, that are ONLY holding houses OFF, you can say or think whatever you want, but most those houses are on Dead shards, for storage. Do I need them? not really... am I going to pay the full price a month just to have extra houses that I really dont need??

The reality is, The EJ is their last "opportunity" to bring people back to the game, to give them a "taste" of the new stuff and so on... but the fact is, if they dont send a MASS Email or promote somehow to the "old Players" to come back, nothing will change at all... They introduced the ingame store/ Sovereigns so people can expend More Money in the game and I believe people are, otherwise EJ wouldnt exist, so the only way that this will work, is to bring a LOT of people back and hope that they will expend money on the ingame store. BUT BUT BUT 10000000x BUT, everybody know that I deal with Accounts all the time, I understand more about the "acc mgmt" than anyone in this game and I told this 1000X already, THERE IS NO NEW PLAYER.
This is a 20 years Old Game, that we all Love, you can complain and say whatever you want, you can even sell everything and quit, but couple months later, people Regret and they COME BACK, trust me I know. I have the numbers to discuss with ANYONE about that. The True Fact is, you can go F2P, you can try whatever you want...but If you dont email ALLLLLLL the old players (someone must have that email database) and tell them to "come back" and try UO 1 more time, nothing will happen and Like A LOT OF PEOPLE already said that, even if 2000 people decide to come back, with the current ACC MGMT System, maybe 10% will be able to get their original account back.

Some people said this before and I will have to agree, they need to fix the account mgmt b4 try to bring people back, They Need to test the NEW things before making them LIVE and I mean TEST TEST TEST TEST and They Need to be OPEN to listen MORE the people that tested on TC and FIX b4 goes live......

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I thought you finished replying two days ago? We've already discussed this in depth... And no offense, but I am sure I pay more for UO than you do... as my whole family plays, we have 3 constant accounts too. If I can pay a little extra and just build a house, it's good for the game. If you want to help Broadsword and Ultima more than we do... by all means, please buy 12 houses and pay all of the accounts. Go for it. That does not mean you have more money than me or anything relating to the real world though.... get over that man.

I'll be happy to reply when people continue to quote me

 

[drcossack]

@Tanager any pics of the other EMs?

 

[Capt. Lucky]

You can think whatever you want, you can say whatever you want, everybody have their own game plan and style.
The Fact is:

I keep 25 active accounts all the time: $120 a year each x 25 = $3000 a year

at least 40+ more holding houses worldwide (shards/Storage), paying every 90 days, there is like AN ADDITIONAL $1000 A YEAR just to keep houses and plots all over the places, you can say whatever you want, right or wrong, idc as I said b4, but the reality is, a LOT of people like me, that own all these extra accounts/Houses, the moment they take that "option" out, will be the moment that I will turn all those EMPTY accounts, that are ONLY holding houses OFF, you can say or think whatever you want, but most those houses are on Dead shards, for storage. Do I need them? not really... am I going to pay the full price a month just to have extra houses that I really dont need??

The reality is, The EJ is their last "opportunity" to bring people back to the game, to give them a "taste" of the new stuff and so on... but the fact is, if they dont send a MASS Email or promote somehow to the "old Players" to come back, nothing will change at all... They introduced the ingame store/ Sovereigns so people can expend More Money in the game and I believe people are, otherwise EJ wouldnt exist, so the only way that this will work, is to bring a LOT of people back and hope that they will expend money on the ingame store. BUT BUT BUT 10000000x BUT, everybody know that I deal with Accounts all the time, I understand more about the "acc mgmt" than anyone in this game and I told this 1000X already, THERE IS NO NEW PLAYER.
This is a 20 years Old Game, that we all Love, you can complain and say whatever you want, you can even sell everything and quit, but couple months later, people Regret and they COME BACK, trust me I know. I have the numbers to discuss with ANYONE about that. The True Fact is, you can go F2P, you can try whatever you want...but If you dont email ALLLLLLL the old players (someone must have that email database) and tell them to "come back" and try UO 1 more time, nothing will happen and Like A LOT OF PEOPLE already said that, even if 2000 people decide to come back, with the current ACC MGMT System, maybe 10% will be able to get their original account back.

Some people said this before and I will have to agree, they need to fix the account mgmt b4 try to bring people back, They Need to test the NEW things before making them LIVE and I mean TEST TEST TEST TEST and They Need to be OPEN to listen MORE the people that tested on TC and FIX b4 goes live......

Here's the thing. So you have what? 2 accounts you actually pay for and 23 you get a 75% discount on? You think that's cool? lol Nothing currently stops EVERYONE in the game from doing the same thing. I have 2 accounts that do nothing but hold a house and stuff for me. When we all go this route there will be no UO left. More than we need will pick up an actual paid full time account to keep their houses and such. In the end we will pick up way more and make up for the free loaders. It's so out of hand now that people just take the discount who would actually pay for the game cause your being a sucker not to. The intent of the program was to save the homes of active fighting men and women overseas who didn't have access to the internet. Not a scheme to rip off UO. I'm all for any active military personnel to be able to send the proper paperwork into BS/EA and get special compensation and consideration. I'm good with that although with the advances in technology I don't believe that's really a problem anymore. Just because some have learned to make great profit in gold and RL cash in UO by exploiting a scam is the least of my concerns.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

So.... ummm... where was the violation?

I quoted it. Anyway speaking of violations..etc... I wonder if Stratics really doesn't understand why they lost out? I'm sure they do. People promoting gray shards. etc etc. Wondering why BS is spending time and money making their own forums? You really wonder? Anyone? If your wanna be a fan boy site then ya gotta go fan boy. Stratics put all their eggs into the forums basket and frankly that's about to blow up in their face. Honestly I never really saw it coming either. I didn't think BS would actually do it. But like the 75% off scam they identified what they felt was a serious problem and addressed it. Everyone knows this will become a ghost town in reality. Even now it's just a handful of people bickering over things they have no control over lol. I hope Stratics sees the writing on the wall and decides to go after a UO Guide type style so they can be around a few years from now. Stratics need to start promoting game guides and game information or just give up the game. Off the wall forums are a joke and the only ones there got booted from here. While no one will admit this currently, when the offical BS forums open there won't be many here. So Stratics let things like gray shards get kicked around and all the rest and now it's probably too late to do much about it in the sense of being the place to go for forums.

 

[Fridgster]

I quoted it. Anyway speaking of violations..etc... I wonder if Stratics really doesn't understand why they lost out? I'm sure they do. People promoting gray shards. etc etc. Wondering why BS is spending time and money making their own forums? You really wonder? Anyone? If your wanna be a fan boy site then ya gotta go fan boy. Stratics put all their eggs into the forums basket and frankly that's about to blow up in their face. Honestly I never really saw it coming either. I didn't think BS would actually do it. But like the 75% off scam they identified what they felt was a serious problem and addressed it. Everyone knows this will become a ghost town in reality. Even now it's just a handful of people bickering over things they have no control over lol. I hope Stratics sees the writing on the wall and decides to go after a UO Guide type style so they can be around a few years from now. Stratics need to start promoting game guides and game information or just give up the game. Off the wall forums are a joke and the only ones there got booted from here. While no one will admit this currently, when the offical BS forums open there won't be many here. So Stratics let things like gray shards get kicked around and all the rest and now it's probably too late to do much about it in the sense of being the place to go for forums.

But there is no violation... No site is named. No link provided. Are you suggesting that we pretend it doesn't exist? As far as people leaving for UO's forum, well you have a lot more faith in that then I do.

 

[Pawain]

But there is no violation... No site is named. No link provided. Are you suggesting that we pretend it doesn't exist? As far as people leaving for UO's forum, well you have a lot more faith in that then I do.

Sorry but whats the point of coming here when there are official forums? The devs are not going to read these anymore. I guess if you want to chat with the people here that dont play the game anyway, you may as well stay here. Sometimes it feels that way anyway.

 

[AtlanticRealtor]

Here's the thing. So you have what? 2 accounts you actually pay for and 23 you get a 75% discount on?

can you read???? at all??

I keep 25 active accounts all the time: $120 a year each x 25 = $3000 a year
and around 40+ accounts every 90 days, that in reality would be the same as If I have 10 accounts active all the time (You can do the math if you want)

 

[Pawain]

can you read???? at all??

He missed the 5.

 

[Basara]

The hotel has TERRIBLE wifi. So I couldn't live stream. But I'm organizing and reviewing all my footage and I'll have a post w/ all the pictures and videos I took coming tomorrow.

Yeah, the wi-fi was so bad that I logged into UO to tell my shard I was at the event, and it took over a second for my GENERAL CHAT lines to go from being entered, to being displayed onscreen/in journal. It was lagging worse than when my 56k modem was connecting at 19.2k back in 2003.

 

[Basara]

BTW, one of the most interesting comments from Richard Garriott was that, while his Lord British stood for order and Starr Long's Lord Blackthorn for Chaos in the games, in the game production studio it was always RG wanting to do the chaotic, edgy, stuff, and SL having to talk him back from it, because certain countries wouldn't let them do such things in a game (example: Why named PVP "people jerky" and heads stopped, was because several EU nanny-state governments told them to remove it or have the game blocked from sale or use).

Another comment was that it wasn't KILLING children NPCs that got them removed from the game - it was that one of the FIRST things RG witnessed in the Beta's first few minutes were a couple meeting and IMMEDIATELY going into a nearby empty building and CYBERING (sex-simulating RP). They realized if they left kids in (especially if they ever became a playable body form), people would start having pedo-cybering going on.

I never got the chance to bring up that very thing is what helped kill The Sims Online (a game he'd mentioned a couple minutes before) a decade later, but I did mention the "Lissbet the Flower Girl" quest that was added long after he was gone, and its creepy vibe. After all, you're escorting this girl to stay with her "Grandfather", that is the only permanently present human between the Compassion desert and the tribals in the far west, and lives by himself with only a SINGLE SHEEP for company (far less than any legitimate farmer or herder would need). And, of course, she doesn't stay there once you get her there...

 

[Captn Norrington]

Anytime Stratics wants to start enforcing the TOS that would be greeeeeat..... "Posts containing or linking to pirated or otherwise illicitly acquired copyrighted content."

That rule applies to naming or linking to a free shard, there was no violation. Discussing what exists on free shards without naming them has been allowed for years, especially considering a great deal of new content over the last few years on OSI UO was inspired by things on free shards.

 

[Captn Norrington]

Sorry but whats the point of coming here when there are official forums? The devs are not going to read these anymore. I guess if you want to chat with the people here that dont play the game anyway, you may as well stay here. Sometimes it feels that way anyway.

People came here when the original official forums still existed many years ago too. Not everyone likes using official forums, which usually have more strict rules than player run forums.

 

[Flagg]

one of the FIRST things RG witnessed in the Beta's first few minutes were a couple meeting and IMMEDIATELY going into a nearby empty building and CYBERING (sex-simulating RP).

Hahaha

Wanna know the totally unsettling flip side to this??
Above basically means that one of the FIRST things that ever happened in UO was then not only few people gorging in sins of digital flesh, but Ser Richard Garriott, First of His Name, being a dirty little voyeur and the eye in the hole in the wall:

Hm..those two people are basically like Adam and Eve of UO's creation myth then.
Verily, tis from their cybor where we all began??


Ohh man..I wish I had been there.* UO's 25th birthday should happen in Finland imo.
* There as in at the bd party, not there as in co-spying ppl cyboring!

 

[Tina Small]

People came here when the original official forums still existed many years ago too. Not everyone likes using official forums, which usually have more strict rules than player run forums.

This is an example of what I suspect the official UO forums will look like: Dungeon Keeper • Index page .

I just don't see Broadsword being interested in setting up and monitoring sub-forums for trading, shard communities, templates, new player tips, etc. I think they will stick to just a few sub-forums for announcements, bug reports, suggestions, and general discussion. I honestly don't see Stratics going anywhere.

 

[Larisa]

Stratics need to start promoting game guides and game information

We have encouraged..and STILL encourage, EVERYONE....yes, YOU..and all of our community, to help with that! That's how it's always been....you know the article system we have? Yes..it's not GREAT...but it's there....write a guide, write several! That's what it's there for....the Arc event part 3 walkthrough I did?? Yeah....things like that....but, like our wonderful UO Team, we here at Stratics are few....we've ALWAYS depended and counted on our community to help build and grow the site....you want Stratics to go that route? Then HELP us go that route!

 

[Nexus]

Sorry but whats the point of coming here when there are official forums? The devs are not going to read these anymore. I guess if you want to chat with the people here that dont play the game anyway, you may as well stay here. Sometimes it feels that way anyway.

There is the consideration that it was basically stated is you break the rule there you're banned, and with linked accounts.....

 

[The Craftsman]

There is the consideration that it was basically stated is you break the rule there you're banned, and with linked accounts.....

So you're free to hack, script, dupe, multibox and fill general chat with toxic profanity to your hearts content, but woe betide you speak out of turn on the official forum as your account will be banned.

Sounds like a fair system.

 

[Pawain]

There is the consideration that it was basically stated is you break the rule there you're banned, and with linked accounts.....

I used the Sims online official forums. You could get banned from the game for breaking the forum rules. And if people think Stratics had strict Mods, they are lightweights compared to those. That forum stopped and we were sent here where it was told to be more liberal. I tested that on my first post and it was removed and I got a short ban. Doesn't look like those new forums will be out for at least 6 months if then.

 

[Tanager]

@Tanager any pics of the other EMs?

There were several current EMs in attendance as well as at least a couple past EMs. I did get some pics, but mostly I was just so scatter brained with nerves that it was all I could do just to ask them to sign my little book and I didn't ask for a pic also. Our founding fathers were kind enough to grant me this one tho. Please pardon the expression on my face, I think I was about to explode with glee.

 

[skett]

Great pic !

 

[Larisa]

There were several current EMs in attendance as well as at least a couple past EMs. I did get some pics, but mostly I was just so scatter brained with nerves that it was all I could do just to ask them to sign my little book and I didn't ask for a pic also. Our founding fathers were kind enough to grant me this one tho. Please pardon the expression on my face, I think I was about to explode with glee.

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LOL Star's face...he's a creepy dude!

YOU Tanager omg BEAUTIFUL! GREAT to put a face to you, love it!

Excellent picture, thank you for sharing!

 

[Finley Grant]

Here's the thing. So you have what? 2 accounts you actually pay for and 23 you get a 75% discount on? You think that's cool? lol Nothing currently stops EVERYONE in the game from doing the same thing. I have 2 accounts that do nothing but hold a house and stuff for me. When we all go this route there will be no UO left. More than we need will pick up an actual paid full time account to keep their houses and such. In the end we will pick up way more and make up for the free loaders. It's so out of hand now that people just take the discount who would actually pay for the game cause your being a sucker not to. The intent of the program was to save the homes of active fighting men and women overseas who didn't have access to the internet. Not a scheme to rip off UO. I'm all for any active military personnel to be able to send the proper paperwork into BS/EA and get special compensation and consideration. I'm good with that although with the advances in technology I don't believe that's really a problem anymore. Just because some have learned to make great profit in gold and RL cash in UO by exploiting a scam is the least of my concerns.

Iam not sure what is wrong with you but he said 25 full open and 40+ for houses.

As much as I normally would say I don't like that. (iam more from the side if you like a house pay your account) he got a point. That's cash which comes in. And iam sure a lot of people will also stop paying even the 5 per month if they can't use those houses anymore

 

[Capt. Lucky]

can you read???? at all??

I keep 25 active accounts all the time: $120 a year each x 25 = $3000 a year
and around 40+ accounts every 90 days, that in reality would be the same as If I have 10 accounts active all the time (You can do the math if you want)

I can read There's the issue of *believing* you where misunderstandings come into play lol

 

[Capt. Lucky]

That rule applies to naming or linking to a free shard, there was no violation. Discussing what exists on free shards without naming them has been allowed for years, especially considering a great deal of new content over the last few years on OSI UO was inspired by things on free shards.

So you don't see a tie to this and BS making their own forums? If I owned UO I'd be ballistic over stuff like that. It's all fun and games to us. To them it's paying their bills and feeding their family.

 

[Fridgster]

Anyone else look at Starr and think pinhead without the makeup and needles? Not trying to be mean or anything just think he missed his calling as a horror film bad guy!

 

[Captn Norrington]

So you don't see a tie to this and BS making their own forums? If I owned UO I'd be ballistic over stuff like that. It's all fun and games to us. To them it's paying their bills and feeding their family.

If they cared about free shards that much, they would have shut down the free shards already. They hold the copyright to UO and could have sued all of those free shards out of existence at any point over the last 20 years. I really can't see them starting their own forums because a fan site allows some non-advertising discussion of free shards, when they themselves allow free shards to continue existing by not going after them.

So no, I don't think it has anything to do with it.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

If they cared about free shards that much, they would have shut down the free shards already. They hold the copyright to UO and could have sued all of those free shards out of existence at any point over the last 20 years. I really can't see them starting their own forums because a fan site allows some non-advertising discussion of free shards, when they themselves allow free shards to continue existing by not going after them.

So no, I don't think it has anything to do with it.

So what is the problem then?

 

[Captn Norrington]

So what is the problem then?

They haven't said why, so I am not sure.

 

[Tanager]

Just my two cents on this forum topic, but I think most MMOs have their own official forums. Most of them are linked to accounts, and most have roughly the same rules concerning etiquette with the same consequences for non-constructive behavior. BS has been working on this project for a long time, building up the wiki first, but spending most of their limited resources on the game itself. This is not shocking or sudden news. An official forum on the official site will be much easier for a new player to find, and is simply a professional thing to have. Perhaps, just maybe, BS having an official forum is possibly nothing personal at all against Stratics. Just maybe.

I respect Stratics for serving the UO community all these years with forums, and I will continue to come here for the articles and walkthrus, etc. I respect freedom of speech, and I believe Stratics forums will continue to have a place in the community for folks who speak their mind more... erm... freely than uo.com will allow. Also, UO players are known to be resistant to change. I don't feel that Stratics is in dire peril.

But I have no problem with the notion of people being held accountable for the words they choose to use, and I want to support UO.com to become a useful and welcoming place for new players without having to scour the internet for other forums and wikis. I look forward to UO.com forums as another step in the right direction for keeping Ultima Online alive.

 

[petemage]

So what is the problem then?

You must be new to UO. Just have a look of the modus operandi of the current producer, and you might get an idea that she rather likes to be among a hand chosen group of friends rather than all UO players equally. Unlike here, she can do that on her own forums.

 

[Merlin]

You must be new to UO. Just have a look of the modus operandi of the current producer, and you might get an idea that she rather likes to be among a hand chosen group of friends rather than all UO players equally. Unlike here, she can do that on her own forums.

Late on Friday night, she sat down with a group of people that included her "fan boys" as well as some haters and listened to complaints, talked UO and so on. She was a lot more down to Earth than your description gives credit for.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

You must be new to UO. Just have a look of the modus operandi of the current producer, and you might get an idea that she rather likes to be among a hand chosen group of friends rather than all UO players equally. Unlike here, she can do that on her own forums.

Yeah I'm brand new lol I'm far from a fan boy and Mesanna has helped me numerous times in a prompt and professional manner. The only side I'm on is what is fair. I don't need to have a beer with her. But if she wants to have a beer I'm ok with that too She's helped me get old accounts back, transfer bugs, bugged items in my house, etc etc. I'm not sure how much more she's expected to do. I'm sure there's other players needing help out there too lol.

 

[petemage]

Late on Friday night, she sat down with a group of people that included her "fan boys" as well as some haters and listened to complaints, talked UO and so on. She was a lot more down to Earth than your description gives credit for.

I can only judge her by the actions I see in public. If she is more professional in an private group setting, that's nice. But maybe she should show it in public from time to time. What I see is like the latest answer she gave Malag about the EC problems. Or the countless promises that haven't seen light of the day. Or the countless complaints about no action whatsoever against cheaters. Disrespectful answers at the Meet and Greets. And so on..

 

[petemage]

Yeah I'm brand new lol I'm far from a fan boy and Mesanna has helped me numerous times in a prompt and professional manner. The only side I'm on is what is fair. I don't need to have a beer with her. But if she wants to have a beer I'm ok with that too She's helped me get old accounts back, transfer bugs, bugged items in my house, etc etc. I'm not sure how much more she's expected to do. I'm sure there's other players needing help out there too lol.

Yep, and it's totally not messed up that those things have to be done by the producer of the game rather than GMs Go praise her for wasting time on helping single accounts while the broad public doesn't even get told things like with the clops' houses.

And btw, I was asking whether you are new because your question was so naive. I know you're not. And I'm also quite sure you can think of more major reasons than some random freeshard discussions too.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Yep, and it's totally not messed up that those things have to be done by the producer of the game rather than GMs Go praise her for wasting time on helping single accounts while the broad public doesn't even get told things like with the clops' houses.

And btw, I was asking whether you are new because your question was so naive. I know you're not. And I'm also quite sure you can think of more major reasons than some random freeshard discussions too.

I just took it you were just being insulting Which really just makes me smile. Because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think their stupid or "naive". I assume their best interest isn't my best interest with the truth laying in the gray area in the middle. Freeshards, ripping off UO with subscription scams and all the rest. It shortens the life of UO and it limits the cash flow back into the game to make a better game. That's what I care about. Keeping the lights on. I've got tons of gold, at least tons from what I actually need. My castle and my Luna vendor house. My rares museum that no one visits lol. I've pretty much met all my major goals. I'm really super happy with my little place in the game. Now my concern is keeping the game going, growing and prospering. When people try to mess with that you wake the dragon. Mesanna and Broardsword is really our last best option. Let's make the best of it and support them as best we can.

 

[petemage]

I just took it you were just being insulting Which really just makes me smile. Because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think their stupid or "naive". I assume their best interest isn't my best interest with the truth laying in the gray area in the middle. Freeshards, ripping off UO with subscription scams and all the rest. It shortens the life of UO and it limits the cash flow back into the game to make a better game. That's what I care about. Keeping the lights on. I've got tons of gold, at least tons from what I actually need. My castle and my Luna vendor house. My rares museum that no one visits lol. I've pretty much met all my major goals. I'm really super happy with my little place in the game. Now my concern is keeping the game going, growing and prospering. When people try to mess with that you wake the dragon. Mesanna and Broardsword is really out last best option. Let's make the best of it and support them as best we can.

Well to clear that up: I don't think you are naive (nor stupid, which I didn't say at all ). Only your *question* was and I'm pretty sure you totally knew that. I'm not the person going all personal in an proper discussion. So no insults taken, no worries.

As for your last two sentences: Whether one supports them or not is totally on each own. Maybe I would start spending money at their store again instead of buying from third party sites if they didn't make me feel like a second class citizen. Only things like secret focus groups and spreading news to friends first instead of the public is not helping it.

I spent money on origin before, but they dropped the ball when I was not worth 500 free sovereigns last anniversary (only 10 years and above accounts got it). It's not like I need them for my life, there are plenty of other games. Or, in case of staying with UO, 3rd party shops Way to split a community.

 

[Merlin]

I just took it you were just being insulting Which really just makes me smile. Because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I think their stupid or "naive". I assume their best interest isn't my best interest with the truth laying in the gray area in the middle. Freeshards, ripping off UO with subscription scams and all the rest. It shortens the life of UO and it limits the cash flow back into the game to make a better game. That's what I care about. Keeping the lights on. I've got tons of gold, at least tons from what I actually need. My castle and my Luna vendor house. My rares museum that no one visits lol. I've pretty much met all my major goals. I'm really super happy with my little place in the game. Now my concern is keeping the game going, growing and prospering. When people try to mess with that you wake the dragon. Mesanna and Broardsword is really out last best option. Let's make the best of it and support them as best we can.

Well to clear that up: I don't think you are naive (nor stupid, which I didn't say at all ). Only your *question* was and I'm pretty sure you totally knew that. I'm not the person going all personal in an proper discussion. So no insults taken, no worries.

As for your last two sentences: Whether one supports them or not is totally on each own. Maybe I would start spending money at their store again instead of buying from third party sites if they didn't make me feel like a second class citizen. Only things like secret focus groups and spreading news to friends first instead of the public is not helping it.

I spent money on origin before, but they dropped the ball when I was not worth 500 free sovereigns last anniversary (only 10 years and above accounts got it). It's not like I need them for my life, there are plenty of other games. Or, in case of staying with UO, 3rd party shops Way to split a community.

Gentlemen, let's not debate minor semantics and personal jabs on what has otherwise been a clean thread. Please do not focus on personal issues/differences and let's get back on track with the overall discussion.

 

[petemage]

Gentlemen, let's not debate minor semantics and personal jabs on what has otherwise been a clean thread. Please do not focus on personal issues/differences and let's get back on track with the overall discussion.

Fair enough. Anyone got a link to a livefeed of the party please?

 

[Beldin Brightaxe]

Another comment was that it wasn't KILLING children NPCs that got them removed from the game - it was that one of the FIRST things RG witnessed in the Beta's first few minutes were a couple meeting and IMMEDIATELY going into a nearby empty building and CYBERING (sex-simulating RP). They realized if they left kids in (especially if they ever became a playable body form), people would start having pedo-cybering going on.

That was Starr Long that mentioned that. And I thought Starr said that he saw one instance of cybering with a child NPC and immediately removed children from UO.