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Will you be purchasing the new theme packs?

Will you be purchasing the new theme packs?

  • I definately will

    Votes: 42 16.9%
  • I will but after a patch or publish

    Votes: 8 3.2%
  • I will if the New Magincia Bazaar catches on

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • I eventually will for the new additions

    Votes: 24 9.7%
  • I'd if they were reasonably priced

    Votes: 27 10.9%
  • I'd if they had more content

    Votes: 35 14.1%
  • I will not, there is nothing in them that interests me

    Votes: 104 41.9%
  • I dont purchase expansions

    Votes: 4 1.6%

  • Total voters
    248

Nimuaq

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This is basically the same poll posted by PASmountaindew with additional options.

Will you be purchasing the new theme packs?
 
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olduofan

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This is basically the same poll posted by PASmountaindew with additional options.

Will you be purchasing the new theme packs?

No like other have said incomplete and over priced :popcorn:
 

Nimuaq

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I made it multiple choice by mistake, Petra just fixed it, sorry about that.
 

hen

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Nothing in them really appeals to me. The tile sets are incomplete. The distillery and chest of sending are superfluous. I have a house spot in a town (Skara Brae) so I don't need a bazaar vendor. I have no reason to buy it.
Didn't buy High Seas either; after the triumph of Stygian Abyss their releases have been pretty poor.
 

MalagAste

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That would be I would have but as I said in the other poll:

The only reason I'm boycotting these is because I told them..... they are Incomplete... I'm not paying that much money for something that is done half-a$$..... You want my money give me something that tells me you worked hard to put out a REAL expansion. Even if it's a Mini it should still feel like a FULL Set of tiles... and to me a full set of housing tiles is a complete set with walls, windows, DOORS, FLOORS, And at the very least a ROOF. Now I'd feel you went over the top if you included a foundation to boot but... it's painfully obvious to me that they REALLY don't care what the customer thinks....

I for one am sick and tired of them trying to do a Half-a$$ job and push that off on me.

So I told them... finish it... or forget it.


You can throw your money at them for it ...... but to me that just tells them "Go ahead... do a half-a$$ job... I'll buy it because it's good enough for me! Who really wants you to do a good job anyway."....... Well I for one am demanding it and I'm putting my Money where my mouth is on this expansion. Or I'm keeping my money in my pocket and they can forget getting any of it for this.

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Lord Frodo

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I will not, there is nothing in them that interests me.

In 13 yrs this will be a first for me of not upgrading any of my accounts.:mad::confused::sad4:
 

NuSair

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I will be buying 1, the rustic pack, only because my wife wants the flowerbed.

If it wasn't for that, there would be no way in hell that I would be purchasing either of these packs at this price.
 

TMC Crowley

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I am not paying 9.99 for a 2.99 theme pack .... I think they been hitting that crack pipe to much !!!!
 

Willard

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There is nothing in these theam packs that I can not live without. If they were priced at $5 each and both for $10 I might consider getting it, but as it stands--it would cost me around $80 to upgrade my 4 accounts---so no, not buying!
 
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Striga

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No .... we pay monthly subs and this is a patch you cannot call this "pack" or expansion....
with Uo f2p was a pack.....maybe.
Lost players and money .......
Gratz!:ten:
 

curlybeard

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Are the themepacks worth 1.5 months of game time in terms of added enjoyment? Not for me.

Honestly, I doubt I would make much use of them at all.
 

gunneroforgin

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I seriously wonder why I bought SA except most of all the guild bought it and I wanted to play with them but I hardly go there now. I will not buy these 2 new expansions at this time.
 

NuSair

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I think SA was worth it. You look at what was in there, and even with the bugs and unfinished content, overall, I feel it was worth it.

The idea.... that both of these packs cost the same as SA to me is mind boggling.

I want to see Cal come here and justify the cost.
 

Assia Penryn

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If they were cheaper, I might or if they had more to offer. The incomplete themes are a disappointment and since I don't rp or run a player tavern anymore, the distillery doesn't interest me as much. Have a shop already so Mag isn't my thing. $15 is too much for my to justify for stuff I probably will not use. The last booster (HS) I bought has been disappointing given the fact folks are still having some issues with it. /sad :sad3:
 

Storm

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buying both if it will ever let me
 
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DVDA

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You need to add "I would, only if EA will let me resize my grandfathered houses"

At the moment I cant fit anything else and they wont me let resize them all to 18x18 :(
 

T-Hunt

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If you dont plan to buy them for real cash, then people should not pay ingame gold for them..

That would just be the same as you purchasing them..
I can tell you now there will be alot for sell for gold, and people will buy it up..

I think thats were EA is counting on to make there coin..
I for one am not buying it, like you said its a small pub. nothing else or more and should be free.

Would have been nice to see them add a cart of sorts like the gem one as a vendor stall look also,insted of what they have now.

oh well my accounts over and not sure im going to renew it unless they wake up and give us what was a good publish for free, even small things..like the packs there trying to sell..
 

TMC Crowley

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I think SA was worth it. You look at what was in there, and even with the bugs and unfinished content, overall, I feel it was worth it.

The idea.... that both of these packs cost the same as SA to me is mind boggling.

I want to see Cal come here and justify the cost.
I would almost bet he will not come and justify the cost because their is none .
 

Martyna Zmuir

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Let's not delude yourselves into believing the uogamecodes site is "busy," its just broken as usual. There is no way in hell that there are that many people trying to buy these crappy boosters.

Chalk it up to a POS third party website that has had issues every time something new is added to ut.

But seriously, don't support these sub-standard, overpriced mini boosters.
 

jack flash uk

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Am I missing something here

you talk about overpriced, too expensive $15? about £9 UK for both sets

HELL YEAH

I shall buy one, just for the new shinies, and I don't think I will go hungry for the next month because of it


My wishes, would be able to set raised flowerbeds in my Castle courtyard and to use the wall tiles to change the look of my Castle
 

Metalstorm

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In a couple weeks when I can afford it, I will get at least the rustic pack.
I know it sounds silly not being able to afford $10 or $15 but it's been raining so no there's been no work. (paving). On the up side, there's been unusually large amounts of time for playing UO :)

I want that still.
I have a 13 year old pack horse named Moonshine. I have been waiting a long time to see his destiny fulfilled :D
 
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unified

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Just so everyone who thinks the packs are overpriced will know:

Each theme pack (Rustic or Gothic) is $9.99 USD. If you buy them both (Grand Bazaar), then it is $14.99 USD.

It will probably make a difference to some if they know that each pack is $10 instead of $15.

... and No, I will not be purchasing the new theme packs. They are overpriced. :)
 

Martyna Zmuir

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I shall buy one, just for the new shinies, and I don't think I will go hungry for the next month because of it

It's not a matter of "not being able to afford," or "going hungry" if these packs were purchased. It's a matter of the content of the packs NOT being worth even half the price they are charging. High Seas sold for $14.99, the Grand Bazaar is the same price for a quarter of the content.


The pathetic amount of unfinished (house tiles) and useless (training dummy) content that goes along with the marginally interesting (distilling and raised beds) content simply isn't worth what they are charging.


Buying these packs will only encourage them (EA) to start nickel and diming us for everything. Monthly subs + micro transaction = corporate greed.
 

QueenZen

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No !

I have been paying for 4 active accts. since 98 for 2 of em and about 2000 for the second 2 accts. At any rate, I am paying em enough to continue to play 4 active accts. per month. Of the 4 accts. only 1 of my 4 is SA'd, and only 2 of my 4 accts. are High Sea'd.

Over the years I have bought EVERY expansion except that 3D one. :) And I normally enthusiastically bought every upgrade until SA for ALL 4 accts. over the yrs.

NO more ! For one thing their websight is often nothing but issues for me. I shudder to even TRY to buy something, off their websight any longer so I seldom, if ever go there anymore. It's not worth the hassle of...same old same issues on their websight to BUY at all.

IF the sight worked like it used to, ie worked, NO issues I would be far more inclined to GO there, to buy stuff. But all ya get is msg'd there are many on the sight at once...ok then UPGRADE, to handle more traffic or hire tons of unemployed people to answer some new phone line just to buy UO items and boosters and minis etc.

AND if I do get thru...something often then next, goes fubar in makin the code I paid for WORK. Luckily in time the codes, DID work but yeh, waiting around hours or days to see if my CC charges actually GAVE me, what I finally got to order or not...is stressful ! *shudder*
While some have no issues ever it seems, rest of us just got tired of trying to BUY anything any longer till or if or when the sight works better. I had a faster successful go of an online sight filing for my old age social security at usgov.com than I ever have happen at EA any more.

That said, I remember when we actually paid for some expansion, and when we did, we were auto-upgraded for *some* of the ones maybe we did not buy earlier, when we got the latest expansion purchased on our accts. So to me in theory IF I bought High Seas *booster* which I did, I shoulda been given SA in the HS cost, cuz SA is OLDER now, than HIGH SEAS.
But wait High Seas persay is NOT an expansion...it's a booster.

And sooo these lil New Magincia mini boosters are...not any expansion, nor a larger *booster* like HS was. These minis don't really give much, cost too much for what little we may get and even there, they seem to be incomplete, and yet the websight remains as it was.....yeh Ima really enthusiastic. NOT ! hate to even say it but..I WISH I could be enthusiastic to buy these but ...that horse done left the stables, long ago !

IF I blow any *more* cash on this game past my monthly fees x 4 accts....then I would probably do the remaining 3 un SA'd accts., to be SA'd merely for house tiles alone which still didn't get any new SA roofing, some pieces of the SA housing tiles don't flow together as they should, but the rest of the SA housing tiles are cool. Would love to BUY SA x 3 more times, so all 4 accts. are upgraded, but I not in the mood to hit that websight again, had issues even with the last HS I got :( but finally I got a code and it worked.

SO IF I EVEN WOULD buy anything from them again, keeping 4 accts going 'as is', then*shudder* going to their websight would need to be greatly improved so I would go back to IT AND BUY, [like buying 3 more SA's that I need], but nothing else, unless it really IS an expansion or worth the cost etc. not mini thingies.
 

Aran

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I don't find anything in anything upcoming to be particularly interesting or enticing.

Frankly I'm more likely to spend $40 on The Sims Generations.
 

aulbrey

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im only buying one of them because it fit my char's rp so good thats probally the only reason too to be honest.
 

Picus of Napa

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I do not see the value in these. If the mag vendors have some action then I might do so just to utilize these on one account and only one of the "upgrades" but as it stands there is no reason for this stuff to be split in half and at best its a "expansion" that should have been free. None of the content is "earth shattering" and probably will not see my $9.99.

Like I said in a earlier thread I believe this is just another grab by Cal, Messana(sp?) and what ever limited support team those two front people have at increasing a year end bonus. This said, if they manage to sell 5K of these packages I'd be shocked and that only adds up to $75K usd which hardly seems worth it to me.
 
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Anvil of Crom

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Originally planned to buy both, one for each of my two accounts. But having a change of heart, I will instead just purchase the Grand Bazaar with one account and leave it at that.

Nothing against paying, it's really not that much money... I just don't have a use for another set of walls on both my houses. So put me down for liking these theme packs, just not in love with them.
 

jack flash uk

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I am gonna have 3 less beers tonight to be able to pay for their hard work.

If a tenner gives me more shinies and keeps people in jobs, I am all for it
 

claudia-fjp

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They don't listen so this time I'm voting with my wallet.

They were told High Seas was buggy as all hell and released it anyway. We ask them to fix the piled up bugs yet after I took a 2 year break the same old bugs were around along with many new ones. We ask for a shard wide vendor search so we don't have to rely on 3rd party websites that only show Luna/Zento or an auctioneer NPC for auctioning off any item. Both things EVERYONE would want to use. Instead they give us a pet vendor and an auctioneer limited to Commodity Deed items and try to charge $15 for it.
 

legendsguy

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if you buy these *cough* "packs", you are part of the problem. you are saying it's okay for UO to do a half-assed... a no-assed job because you'll happily open up your wallets and pay. if you purchase these packs, you are saying that it's okay for UO to charge 12 bux a month -and- for the content that should come with your subscription fee. what is the 12 bux a month for? the servers?

i know that calvin will never mention the price because, quite frankly, it is not possible to justify these exorbitant prices. in what world do a few (very) poorly drawn pieces of deco, a distillery (that does -nothing-!) and a garden for the lazy constitute as being worth 15 dollars? let me remind you that high seas also cost 15 dollars and it was brimming with content comparatively.

i'm sure we all want UO to last another 10 years+ and so we throw money at it like it was some diseased, filthy bum just so we can feel better about charitably giving. but the question we should be asking ourselves, as we buy yet another half-assed pack, is whether UO deserves to last another 10 years when this is the **** they give us.

and by the way, what is the deal with the new 'bazaars'? since when have we had to pay money (beyond our monthly subscription fee, of course) to be able to access content that affects the entire world? i don't recall having to pay 9.99 to purchase the new general chat pack.

i hate how everyone is apologetically buying it, making excuses as they know full well it isn't right. well, if it isn't right, don't buy it. don't say you're 'only buying it for the garden'; don't say you're 'only buying it because your wife is making you'. just simply don't buy it.

this nonsense has to end. put everything in your bank and take a break from UO for awhile. find out if your life is actually better without it. by all means if you miss it, then return. but if you're really enraged, do something about it! hit UO in the only place where it actually hurts--with the only weapon they'll actually respond to! stop paying! stop playing!

we do not deserve this, we deserve better. calvin, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
 
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Sevin0oo0

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Even if I was staying around, I wouldn't be buying anything here. After the HS fiasco and Other FAILS, I've lost confidence that the team can produce bug-free content - and not just for the in-game part, gotta include Buying it also. I am so done paying (or trying to) for stuff that doesn't work right. Plus, simply put, this add-on does nothing for me, and it's All about me
 

johnny13

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UO Store seem to be very busy having a hard time but finally manage to buy 2 set of grand bazaar.
 
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Woodsman

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i'm sure we all want UO to last another 10 years+ and so we throw money at it like it was some diseased, filthy bum just so we can feel better about charitably giving. but the question we should be asking ourselves, as we buy yet another half-assed pack, is whether UO deserves to last another 10 years when this is the **** they give us.
I'll reserve my judgement for whether UO deserves another 10 years until I see what they do with improving the EC and the graphics.

If they are serious about bringing in new players (which is what UO needs the most), then they have their chance to prove it to the world with their work on the EC and the graphics update.

I'm even willing to forgive/forget/ignore the theme packs because the theme packs feel like the pricing and content was set by corporate, especially the fact that they were split into two different packs.

The EC and graphics update work, that's where the rubber meets the road. I'd feel a lot better if Cal mentioned some new hires or that some artists were being loaned to the UO devs.

BioWare is huge, BioWare is behind the Ultima Forever campaign, if they aren't willing to get serious about the EC and the graphics update, then it would speak volumes about the support for UO.
 
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Gunga_Din

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The packs just look like a fail. Why offer something that doesn't have at least 80% support. What if u don't have or want to do custom housing, or garden, or make pointless brews, or need this bazaar. If your not gonna use everything in the pack, its even more of a bad purchase. My crafter is on one acct and possible custom house on another, I'm not gonna b uy for all my accts.

These packs baffle me. Its been awhile since we have had some new content and this is what I've waited for? Magincia was a total letdown. I've unloaded all 4 of my mag plots. The game is looking really bad.

The poll is leaning towards 33% overall acceptance. That's horrible.
 

Andrasta

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I will probably buy at least one of each set but it's very disappointing that the house tile sets have no new floors, roof tiles or foundations.

Housing is the one thing that keeps me going with multiple accounts. We should at least be getting new complete custom tiles sets.
 

HD2300

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I do not see the value in these. If the mag vendors have some action then I might do so just to utilize these on one account and only one of the "upgrades" but as it stands there is no reason for this stuff to be split in half and at best its a "expansion" that should have been free. None of the content is "earth shattering" and probably will not see my $9.99.

Like I said in a earlier thread I believe this is just another grab by Cal, Messana(sp?) and what ever limited support team those two front people have at increasing a year end bonus. This said, if they manage to sell 5K of these packages I'd be shocked and that only adds up to $75K usd which hardly seems worth it to me.
Well they most probably got an intern to do the art in 2 or 3 days, so that was free, and the coding only took 2 or 3 days too. So it only cost them like $1K to make both boosters unless the intern did the coding too.

I guess the plan is everyone will switch over to Ultima4Ever online when it goes live.
 

Elric_Soban

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I see about $1.25 worth of content being priced at $15. No thanks.

Oh wait, we pay a monthly fee to play. It should be free with a patch.
 

EvilPixieWorks

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What a great question… as I do love poll questions, however I don’t exactly see my answer in the options. hehe.

This new Rustic/Gothic thing DOES interest me… however I will NOT shell out a single penny because it's not worth it.

They really needed to do more if they expected people to pay real money for these. The work on the house tiles is extremely incomplete and the fact it's so much money… is totally unreasonable. It's really a trap to make you buy both seeing each has good things to it. 10$ for both, maybe. Even then, I would have only upgraded 1 account out of 5. Very badly thought out.

This whole thing is a very big disappointment when they were talking about Spring Cleaning 2011 in the same breath. Maybe now… we can get cracking on the Spring Cleaning 2011… before it's 2012.
 

Nimuaq

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Because Ultima4Ever in Facebook will have better graphics, there will be more people playing it and be supported better.
There are several links to uoherald.com from the UltimaForever page though.
 

THP

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not at the crazy $14.99 for both .no no no.
 
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Talula

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I might buy them when/if they go on sale for $7 or so. MIGHT. I still haven't bought High Seas for my second account because there's no need. They're not putting anything in these that merits an immediate purchase, the price is ridiculous for what we're getting, and the content they're trying to sell us seems unfinished. If they want me to lay out full price for something they need to try harder.
 

Tina Small

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At this point, I don't plan to buy either pack. I wouldn't mind having a couple of the items and to be able to make some of the craftables (not too sure about a couple of them). However, the cost is too high for what you get, especially considering the poor quality and unfinished state of the tile sets. I still only have High Seas on one account and that's because a friend gave me the code for it so I could go out hunting with the guild.

Even though I'm slightly interested in the encampment system to be able to sell pets on Siege, I just can't justify the cost, especially if so few people seem willing at this point to also buy one of the packs. In addition, my tamer on Siege is on a different account than my crafter (you're limited to one character per account on Siege) and there's just no way I'm paying for a minimum of three packs so that my crafter can make all the craftables and my tamer can use the encampment system. I really feel that the encampment system should have been made available to every account as part of a publish. As it is, I can't see it being much of a success at this point if everyone doesn't have access to it. Meh, maybe if everyone doesn't have access to it, the bidding for a spot won't get totally out of hand. Playing on a shard that only has half the potential spots that another shard has, I guess I'm more concerned than most that gold-poor players will be locked out of being able to use it as sellers. And Siege has perhaps a few more gold-poor players than most other shards and they are actually the people who would benefit most by being able to sell resources they collected (e.g., cloth because you can't buy it from NPCs, leather, ingots, wood) through the encampment system to help them get a foothold on the shard.

I also don't like the looks of the encampment system "stalls." It's disappointing that they couldn't have been done with a lot more class and visual appeal.
 
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wee papa smurf

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I definitely will simply because i have purchased every other add-on thats been on sale :D
 

Xalan Dementia

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You do realize the prices are not decided by cal or mesanna, so don't pancake them out for the price, blame them for the content. I'm kind of mad that you have to buy a upgrade just to use Magincia. We fight to save it and then some Evil Corporation comes in and starts charging us to use it?
Cheap deco items.... a flower bed for farming seeds of renewal..... and a distillery to make like 5 types of brew (all of which do nothing but make you spout phrases)
If anything these items should have been thrown into the Summer Cleaning rewards.
 
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