I don't get it. Tamers were fine before they introduced dragons, so I don't get that statement about the only thing worthy anything to tamers....
You hit the nail on the head. They never should have been tamable in the first place.
If you're fighting seven and killing half, while the rest high tail, then those 7 aren't pvper's.
. I cured it.ok if this has miss up my t hunter being able to take on an AW with a GD then that is the biggest mistake I have ever seen EA make with the nerf stick. I have never been able to take on all four guardians and have to use the Lure one at a time off to fight with my GD, the AW has always been the means one of the bunch to take out, battles lasting 15-20 minutes with it, and me vetting like crazy. Now if nerf means I cannot take on an AW alone as before then that it, my t hunter has retired.
Where did you take your GD to test this out?
While I would agree with you fully, I must say this has always been the state of UO, either you attend an event and get what is offered or you do not.
While I have not tested it I would think it safe to assume it has not limited the Dragons tanking ability at all, this means it will just change that 15-20 min fight to a 20-30 fight (rough estimate or exaggeration)
So where do you stand? Do you still hate this nerf based on what you read about it or do you hate it based on practice? Often it seems to me some people just like to complain and don't even bother to play the game they are complaining about. They'd rather come here and seem to get off more on being negative on boards than on having fun in-game, but that's just my opinion of course. Mind you, I'm not attacking you Lord Frodo. I actually admire that you went out and tested it to validate/test your opinions. We are all swayed by arguments, but more often than not, I login and have had fun in UO for 12+ years, the negative arguments be d@mned.
Just an FYI on this. My t-hunter was in the same position, having it be such a pill to finish off the AW. I added S/W to my tamer, WoD really helps finish off the best.
Obviously, he doesn't hate it anymore. Hence the preterit.
Put it to ya this way; My GD couldn't handle 2 wyverns and a lava elementals in the Underworld. I couldn't heal fast enough I'm afraid. Especially when you're being bombarded by those pesky fire ants. LOL
Were you able to do it before the nerf?
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
My GD did better before then. But, as I've stated... I was too preoccupied and so I wasn't healing him as much as I needed to.
The only thing worth anything?? Good lord. GDs are still super powerful, and tamers have PLENTY of other good pets as well.
Well, AW's were less powerful back then. They really boosted the power level of AW's and even Balrons. Though like many things I am not so sure lvl 6 maps were supposed to be soloable of course but that is another topic.Gee, how did we ever survive doing a thunt before Greater Drags........
Didn't take it as an attack. So far I and the other Tamer saw no real differance in our GDs. As I said the Swoops were all above norm and it did not seam to take any longer than what I had done pre SA going live. I am not sure what this nerf did or was suppose to have done but SO FAR IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT IS GOING TO AFFECT MY PLAY STYLE AT ALL. I have also played for over 12+ yrs, but as a tamer I am a noob, less than 1 year. I read posts from people that gave me info on taming and when they said how bad this was I took it as being OMG why. The only player I could not stand up to was the old tamer with his 2-4 draggies, LOL those were the days, no slots. I played true malee players and loved it. I do not PvP and never did, so I would not be able to tell if this effected that part of the game or not. As I said and I will repeate it SO FAR IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT IT IS GOING TO AFFECT MY PLAY STYLE AT ALL.
OMG what game were you playing. Sorry! Tamers, no slots, 2-4 Draggies OWNED. Mages pre NERF OWNED. The only true PvPer fought with with honor but most were just PKers or PK groups. There was little 1v1 because other people wouldn't stay out of it. You wanted 1v1, Tamers were there to control the crowd. Get in the way and you got chomped or the beloved overpowered Mage smoked you. Either way you were dust.
I was on a break at the time, but seems like they bumped the AW up around time GD appeared?
Ok, let me try this with my fighter.Has anyone in this thread actually used a Greater Dragon since Pub 60? lol
Okay, so stat-wise, my Greater Dragon on my tamer-bard has the same STR and Base Damage. Now to see how "weak" it is. Something had to change, right? They couldn't have just meant capped damage for PvP, right?
To the Rotting Corpses in Covetous ... doh! Someone is here. Okay, hm. Let's just try the Abyss. Wish I had one of those sweet new Aud-Chars.
Gremlin -- dies in one hit, 76 damage. Oops. Sweet, 5 points.
Rotworm, dead in two hits and a firebreath.
Rotworm, dead in three hits. Rotworm does 1 damage per hit, 12-15 with special blood move. 25 points. These must give 10 each.
And don't forget to cut them up
Two more Rotworms dead, Dragon has 819/819 hp. Hm. Where was that RC? 45 pts.
Partially damaged Gray Goblin Mage. 55 pts. It poisoned my Dragon when it died, leaving it poisoned, oh no!
Another mage, a regular Goblin, 73 points now.
Ah ha! Found the RC spawn! Done counting now, letting dragon into room. Oh sweet, GGS magery because a Goblin attacked me and I used my Swords of Prosperity on it.
Two RCs, a bunch of spectre, skeletons and stuff. I definitely have to keep it healed. With it arch curing and me using magery, I'm good though.
First two RCs dead, dragon went blue after killing third RC, told it to kill again, fourth RC now dead. Cake walk time.
Dragon has 130/600 mana and 713/838 hp. I have only 81 points! That's right, these guys aren't giving me points. Boo!
Alright, time to blow this popsicle stand and get to something better.
Wolf Spider, 86 pts. 2-hit kill. Gray Goblin, 94 pts. Eep. Okay, no matter how tough a dragon can be, I don't know if I can make it to Navrey on foot. Let's see if I can make the run. Let me feed my Draggy a Goblin rib first.
Okay. Made it past the Goblins, now to pass Mr. Sentinel(sp). Hi Neville, sorry, not right now.
Oh crap 8 wolf spiders and a blood ele. IF I weren't typing this would be hard. All dead, 551/819 hp on drag, 434 mana....huh? lol wtf an iron beetle wants in on the action. Wow, the beetle is actually ten times harder than the blood ele and the spiders. I'm not healing, but the beetle gets dragon down to 552 hp from 819.
Sentinel spider. I do about 70 damage a hit with dragon to this. 230 pts, waiting on one more to see how many pts it gets. Hm, that's weird. It spawned with two Wolf Spiders and I killed both in two hits, then the Sentinel, and I'm only 240 pts. One more time.
Ah. Sentinels do not give pts. Wolf give 5 each. 250 now.
Ok, now a really easy mini-boss, Navrey.
Dead. Eep, another spawned same spot. When it webs you, that can sometimes be bad. But it doesn't suck you in.
400 pts. Guess they give about 75 each.
Well, I will use Dragon on something a little harder like Lady M soon, but I'd like to know, from people who have tested it rather than just read the change, how it is effecting them so far. *Recalls out*
