Request for Recall of WBB Deco

[GreyPawn]

See how many things wrong you can spot with this picture.

If you said-
A) Why, GP, that bank has a waterfall on top of it!
B) There appears to be a campfire perched atop that financial institution.
C) Those wooden stairs are huge and ungainly

You'd be right!

In what is perhaps one of the worst cliche's of UO's customizable housing system, the "roof garden with complimentary waterfall" is now permanently affixed to Atlantic's historically most frequented bank. Rather than accentuate what is by adding architectural elements suitable to an actual bank, the winner of the decoration contest (to which no ill will is meant) has repurposed the bulk of the bank as a babbling brook.

The destruction of immersion could not be more complete. Would you head off to Wells Fargo or CitiBank with your trusty fishin' pole, intent to catch yerself one of those elusive Red Pacific Northwest Salmon on the 14th floor? I hear tell that bankfish is a tasty supper. Know of anyone in any fantasy book, ever written, that roasted marshmellows on the rooftop of a fantasy kingdom's largest financial institution? You'd be hanging by the toenails before dawn.

To compound matters, the actual inside of the bank has not been touched. No, since its earliest inception way back yonder in beta, when orcs lurked precariously just over that western bridge, the innards of the bank seemed to sacrosanct to transform. Though perhaps this is a boon in disguise, as the cliche' which follows the rooftop waterfall tends to be the "Hall of Monster Statuettes and Singing Crystal Balls" which would produce a chorus of screeching horror.

On behalf of Atlantic's saddened citizens, I would like to request a recall and a "do over" for the WBB Decoration Contest. As a shard, we can certainly do better. As a people, we can surely craft a beautifully decorated *BANK* to inspire and awe.

I recommend a new one-week period for submissions coupled with a public awareness campaign to encourage more people to send in their concepts. I also recommend that Vlad's name and a plaque of recognition be retained in any new design to honor his original contribution.

If you support this measure, please post in response.

Respectfully,
GP

 

[Tazar]

The main thing that the bank needed - that it did not have - is PEOPLE! It got that today so I am happy!

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

I have to admit, I don't care for the grass roof and the stream on top.

But with that said...IT WAS A CONTEST! IF YOU WANTED TO DESIGN SOMETHING ELSE, YOU SHOULD HAVE SUBMITTED IT!

 

[Ravahan]

While your post cracked me up and on the point of realism I have to agree, somehow I just can't get into a funk about it as I ride around on my ghost llama on a character that can throw magical fireballs and inflict deadly poison by murmuring and hurling a potato at someone (a member of the nightshade family).

At first glance, I thought the bank was distasteful to be honest for many of the reasons you mentioned, but its grown on me to the point where when I saw it implemented today, I realized that its really absolutely perfect for the banksitting community. I actually like the design after splashin' around on top of it today.

If you're gonna sit around at a bank, that'll be the one to do it at for SURE.

 

[Mirage]

See how many things wrong you can spot with this picture.

If you said-
A) Why, GP, that bank has a waterfall on top of it!
B) There appears to be a campfire perched atop that financial institution.
C) Those wooden stairs are huge and ungainly

You'd be right!

In what is perhaps one of the worst cliche's of UO's customizable housing system, the "roof garden with complimentary waterfall" is now permanently affixed to Atlantic's historically most frequented bank. Rather than accentuate what is by adding architectural elements suitable to an actual bank, the winner of the decoration contest (to which no ill will is meant) has repurposed the bulk of the bank as a babbling brook.

The destruction of immersion could not be more complete. Would you head off to Wells Fargo or CitiBank with your trusty fishin' pole, intent to catch yerself one of those elusive Red Pacific Northwest Salmon on the 14th floor? I hear tell that bankfish is a tasty supper. Know of anyone in any fantasy book, ever written, that roasted marshmellows on the rooftop of a fantasy kingdom's largest financial institution? You'd be hanging by the toenails before dawn.

To compound matters, the actual inside of the bank has not been touched. No, since its earliest inception way back yonder in beta, when orcs lurked precariously just over that western bridge, the innards of the bank seemed to sacrosanct to transform. Though perhaps this is a boon in disguise, as the cliche' which follows the rooftop waterfall tends to be the "Hall of Monster Statuettes and Singing Crystal Balls" which would produce a chorus of screeching horror.

On behalf of Atlantic's saddened citizens, I would like to request a recall and a "do over" for the WBB Decoration Contest. As a shard, we can certainly do better. As a people, we can surely craft a beautifully decorated *BANK* to inspire and awe.

I recommend a new one-week period for submissions coupled with a public awareness campaign to encourage more people to send in their concepts. I also recommend that Vlad's name and a plaque of recognition be retained in any new design to honor his original contribution.

If you support this measure, please post in response.

Respectfully,
GP

/signed

It just has a silly "feel" to it. Roof is to busy...


Mir

 

[Mirage]

The main thing that the bank needed - that it did not have - is PEOPLE! It got that today so I am happy!

I'm glad you're happy today Taz, cuz In a week or less...once the novelty wears off, it's back to Luna. I do not understand how a waterfall and cluttered bank area is supposed to lure people back?

Actually why should they lure anyone back at all? If people like banking in Luna...then so be it. People like Luna. It's their choice.

Behind a mysterious waterfall, and a hitching post....it's still just Brit bank.

mir

 

[Mirage]

I have to admit, I don't care for the grass roof and the stream on top.

But with that said...IT WAS A CONTEST! IF YOU WANTED TO DESIGN SOMETHING ELSE, YOU SHOULD HAVE SUBMITTED IT!

*covers ears*

Has my mother come back to life??

Anyway, maybe he did Morgana. Maybe there were other designs that were more appealing.

Maybe we should have put it to the vote of the player base, rather then let the Dev team decide?

Mir

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

Anyway, maybe he did Morgana. Maybe there were other designs that were more appealing.

Maybe we should have put it to the vote of the player base, rather then let the Dev team decide?

No one put it to a vote when they ruined the game with Luna and AoS in the first place, why start now?

 

[RaGiNgLuNaTiC]

Really???
I am pretty sure I saw you ride your semi Invisible mount that pops into your pack to the bank but you are going to complain about a fountain?? and since when is Brit the most used bank... Years?? Then I see you brag about being 10+ Vet and that water on a rooftop is insane while there are people commanding dragons with superior Int. than their own and that is ok? The only original Brit. bank is the one in Fell and its still the same. Atleast Brit is seeing some people for a change. Oh, by the way I bank with Citi and my branch does have a waterfall...

 

[Mirage]

No one put it to a vote when they ruined the game with Luna and AoS in the first place, why start now?

Why NOT start now?

 

[Ravahan]

I would like to point out that this is incredibly rude to Vladimir. This is the reason I've never entered a contest like this, you can't please everyone and there's always someone to make you sorry you won.

The poor man probably put his all into this, and was likely elated to have won, and he's hearing almost nothing but negativity. The people that liked it said so and were done, but the nay sayers just don't shut up.

You don't like it? Keep banking in Luna and ****ing can it. This is the high point in a UO player's career and I'm sick of seeing people pissing on it. I don't even know the guy and it makes me mad.

To all the "naysayers"; Shame on you, and I mean it.

 

[Mirage]

I would like to point out that this is incredibly rude to Vladimir. This is the reason I've never entered a contest like this, you can't please everyone and there's always someone to make you sorry you won.

The poor man probably put his all into this, and was likely elated to have won, and he's hearing almost nothing but negativity. The people that liked it said so and were done, but the nay sayers just don't shut up.

You don't like it? Keep banking in Luna and ****ing can it. This is the high point in a UO player's career and I'm sick of seeing people pissing on it. I don't even know the guy and it makes me mad.

To all the "naysayers"; Shame on you, and I mean it.

Are you kidding me? People can't have an opinion? I totally respect Vlad and his design. I'm sure he did work hard on it and I hear he is a great guy. But to say people can't have a personal opinion about something is just wrong. Lot's of people like the new look. Lots of people don't.

I don't like you telling me to keep banking in Luna (when I don't in the first place) and telling me to ****ing can it! But I guess that's your opinion...

I haven't seen all negativity....I have seen lots of posts saying "congrats" and "nice job Vlad"...etc. And he did a nice job..It's just not what some people wanted to see.

Last I looked, this was still America, and Obama hadn't taken away our right to disagree ... YET.

High point in a UO Players Career. LoL

Say that out loud and try not to laugh. LoL

Mir

 

[Nh'bdy]

Whilst all of you bicker needlessly, I'll be frequenting real banks like Delucia and East Brit. Good luck with all that.

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

I would like to point out that this is incredibly rude to Vladimir. This is the reason I've never entered a contest like this, you can't please everyone and there's always someone to make you sorry you won.

The poor man probably put his all into this, and was likely elated to have won, and he's hearing almost nothing but negativity. The people that liked it said so and were done, but the nay sayers just don't shut up.

You don't like it? Keep banking in Luna and ****ing can it. This is the high point in a UO player's career and I'm sick of seeing people pissing on it. I don't even know the guy and it makes me mad.

To all the "naysayers"; Shame on you, and I mean it.

I agree! He entered and won a contest fairly. We should all be happy that one of us has left his mark upon the world of Sosaria!

Even if you don't like one or two aspects of his design, overall, it was deemed to be the best by the devs, and I personally think it turned out rather well.

I say congrats to Vladimir, and I don't know him either.

I am just glad that we all had an opportunity to see this kind of thing happen.

How many buildings, major buildings, do you think players in games like WoW had a hand in designing??

 

[Ravahan]

High point in a UO Players Career. LoL

Say that out loud and try not to laugh. LoL

Mir

Perhaps career isn't the right word, but I can't think of a better one. I don't know how long Vladimir has been around, but some people have played this game for eleven years. I think we all can agree that UO and games like it have a way of becoming more than a game. The interface is a game, sure, but the interactions are quite real, as is the time spent. If a guy played hockey for 11 years, or even half that, you could say his "hockey career" even if its just a hobby. Heck, you even have people out there who make their living off of game tournaments, even in the MMO genre.... And aside from that, UO items and gold (especially real estate) can be worth enough RL cash for you to make a living on as well. Just look at Marquee Dragon or any of the other power brokers. Hell, before eBay went all non-virtual, I paid my subscription to UO by selling stuff on there.

So yes, after thinking on it, career is likely the correct word, but only when clarified with the word gaming. His gaming career.

I don't care about your political views, personally, and you're welcome to them. And while I replied directly to you Mirage, that heat was not directed specifically at you, it was just where I decided to click. In u.hall, in game (with Vlad standing RIGHT THERE), and to a lesser degree here, I see people (some very vocally, some not) downing his design. To go far enough as to suggest we remove it from the server..... It just sadens me to see people raining on his parade. Its extremely rare that something this cool happens to a person in a game they love. Vladimir gets to leave a very permenant mark on Atlantic history, and that's something he should be happy about-- something as fellow players we should appreciate and be happy about as well, because this is UO, the only place where something like this CAN happen. Its part of what makes me love this game, as I'm sure you agree. Just seeing you post this here is proof enough that you understand that the players in this game effect its developement.

That is truely remarkable.

So, in summary, you don't bank at WBB now anyway. If you don't like the design, no reason to start. Let the man have his victory, and you can continue using whatever non-Luna bank it is you go to. (Personally, I use a number of different ones depending on what char I'm on and what I need done).

 

[GreyPawn]

Firstly, the recall initiative was not meant to impugne Vlad as a person, merely his hideous design. You can maintain respect for a person while disagreeing heartily with their handiwork. To those two or three of you that think this was meant to rain on Vlad's parade, please re-read the original post.

As someone who *has* played UO for nearly eleven years, I found a rooftop waterfall on Britain's best recognized and most frequented structure to be an insult to its historical signifigance. It is almost as though the disgusting housing designs of the trailer park that is Malas have finally come home at last to Britain, and opted to camp out on the roof (literally).

To those that say "Well, just don't bank there." I seldom do. And in fact, most people don't nowadays. A change in scenery isn't going to alter that. However, the fact remains that a historic structure has been repurposed from Bank to Park. What next? Castle British as a vendor mall? And the fact remains that the entire inside of the BANK (it's a bank, remember?) was left completely untouched. So yes, I question the validity of this redecoration as the will of the Atlantic server population. None of you, not even the ones vociferously defending Vlad's design through ad hominem attacks, says you like the design. Morgana, you even mentioned you hated it back in the original post when it was first announced.

Let's get past the personal aspects of this, and do what is right for Atlantic, rather than what might please a single individual the most.

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

Morgana, you even mentioned you hated it back in the original post when it was first announced.

Let's get past the personal aspects of this, and do what is right for Atlantic, rather than what might please a single individual the most.

I don't think hate was the word I used.

But, for the record, I would have preferred Brit bank to remain the way it was.

I want Maginicia back the way it was too...


But at the same time, we have Trammel, we have AoS, we have people running around in day-glow colors riding polar bears or ghost llamas. Any sense of immersion in this game, beyond what we create in our minds, has been utterly destroyed long before this act.

The devs saw fit to have this contest, in a misguided attempt to bring people back to Britain. If they want to bring people back to Britain, they need to move the moongate closer. It's that simple. Amazingly, there are characters in the game now for whom recall is a pain in the rump! Sampires for example, unless they want to use up valuable space on their templates, must go to wraith form, then recall, then go back out of wraith form and re-mount. Or, they can just walk through a moongate and end up in Luna and walk up the stairs.

Should there be a river and grass on top the bank? I don't think so...but it wasn't my design. The devs agreed, and now...I would not support removing it because it is something that Vlad worked hard on...and something he has earned.

 

[shanshu]

Firstly, the recall initiative was not meant to impugne Vlad as a person, merely his hideous design. You can maintain respect for a person while disagreeing heartily with their handiwork. To those two or three of you that think this was meant to rain on Vlad's parade, please re-read the original post.

As someone who *has* played UO for nearly eleven years, I found a rooftop waterfall on Britain's best recognized and most frequented structure to be an insult to its historical signifigance. It is almost as though the disgusting housing designs of the trailer park that is Malas have finally come home at last to Britain, and opted to camp out on the roof (literally).

To those that say "Well, just don't bank there." I seldom do. And in fact, most people don't nowadays. A change in scenery isn't going to alter that. However, the fact remains that a historic structure has been repurposed from Bank to Park. What next? Castle British as a vendor mall? And the fact remains that the entire inside of the BANK (it's a bank, remember?) was left completely untouched. So yes, I question the validity of this redecoration as the will of the Atlantic server population. None of you, not even the ones vociferously defending Vlad's design through ad hominem attacks, says you like the design. Morgana, you even mentioned you hated it back in the original post when it was first announced.

Let's get past the personal aspects of this, and do what is right for Atlantic, rather than what might please a single individual the most.

QFT

and

\signed

I'd also like to add that I would have less of an issue with the design if the roof were rethought. What if the grass, stream and falls were moved to the area surrounding the bank? Perhaps near the trash can? That whole area is taken up by just two trees.

It isn't that I did not want to enter, but that I could not figure out how to do what needed to be done. I am not the most savvy person when it comes to photoshop or any similar programs. Perhaps if they had opened up the test shard and added the bank as an option for house placement, so that everyone, Stratics readers and non alike, could have entered. Perhaps even adding the option to vote using your UO account, then we would have something more palatable to everyone. Maybe that wouldn't be the case, I don't know, but I do know that I find this design awful, and a bit disrespectful to the rest of the player base who doesn't read Stratics or UO.com., or who lacked the ability to contribute.

I might point out that this could all be resolved by decimating Luna. Also, why not have players declare a home town with advantages for each.

Perhaps Skara folks would receive an extra stable slot.

Minoc gets an extra 50 stones.

Vesper gets 25 more bank items.

Anyway, you get the idea.

And Vlad, good job. I may not agree with your choices, but I applaud your imagination and courage to enter this contest.

 

[Millie]

Vlad you did a great job,
I'd like to share whit you something a great man told after a few people dislike and picked apart my winning bank design and Then started making personal attacks on me. He told me

"Listen to your friends. Ignore the haters. Friends matter..."

and you know, he's right

 

[LordNoximos]

I don't know why I clicked this thread, knowing Greypawn had typed it.

Did he reference all of his time as a seer, and his old friends etc etc? Get over it.

 

[shanshu]

Vlad you did a great job,
I'd like to share whit you something a great man told after a few people dislike and picked apart my winning bank design and Then started making personal attacks on me. He told me

"Listen to your friends. Ignore the haters. Friends matter..."

and you know, he's right

You know, I don't really see any one launching personal attacks on Vlad. There have been critiques to his design, but not him as a person.

I'm not sure what world people live in where others can't express their opinion or displeasure, especially considering the fact that it has been done so rather civilly.

In fact, it has been some of the supporters of this design that have been blatently rude and immature at this point.

 

[RaGiNgLuNaTiC]

As someone who *has* played UO for nearly eleven years, I found a rooftop waterfall on Britain's best recognized and most frequented structure to be an insult to its historical signifigance.

Dont you know who I am?? How often do you bring up how long you have been playing UO? And how long does a structure in a virtual world need to be intact before it becomes "historic"?
There is a Mcd's down the street from my house they are about to tear down after only 12 years...Should I petition to save this "historic" structure?
As I said before there is still one Brit bank that is untouched, The Original.
The one that has been around since the beginning.

Most people I saw at the bank enjoyed the change as somthing new that may (even for a short while) bring life back to the Ghost town that is Britain.

 

[PorkChopSammiches]

/signed

Looks ridiculous.

 

[Ravahan]

Firstly, the recall initiative was not meant to impugne Vlad as a person, merely his hideous design. You can maintain respect for a person while disagreeing heartily with their handiwork. To those two or three of you that think this was meant to rain on Vlad's parade, please re-read the original post.

Yes, your original post was very civil. As I did say, my spouting was just general frustration and happened to be where I clicked rather than one of the u.hall threads or going at someone at brit bank.

None of you, not even the ones vociferously defending Vlad's design through ad hominem attacks, says you like the design.

If you'll mermit me to quote nazi;

At first glance, I thought the bank was distasteful to be honest for many of the reasons you mentioned, but its grown on me to the point where when I saw it implemented today, I realized that its really absolutely perfect for the banksitting community. I actually like the design after splashin' around on top of it today.

If you're gonna sit around at a bank, that'll be the one to do it at for SURE.

Let's get past the personal aspects of this, and do what is right for Atlantic, rather than what might please a single individual the most.

What is best for Atlantic, in the end? Isn't it having the players touch the server in a lasting way? Leaving a mark to say "I was here, and I had fun!"

But all that being said, I would like to apologize (particularly to Mirage, who's post I clicked to reply to) for last night's post, it was rather harsh. While the sentiment is true, the wording could've been delivered quite a bit better. Hardly an excuse, but I was quite drunk at the time I posted and still a bit hungover when I replied this morning.

On a different note-- Nice to see you're back, Shanshu! =D Didn't you quit for a while and give away all your stuff?

 

[shanshu]

On a different note-- Nice to see you're back, Shanshu! =D Didn't you quit for a while and give away all your stuff?

Far too many times for my liking, yes. I am back, albeit, I have not been on in about 5 weeks.

Too much frustration with the RNG

Over 1000 Mel runs, never a CC
Hundreds of DF's killed, (even since the new patch) no Doom drops.
About a 100 Champ spawns with only the Futon to show.

Not quitting, but not quiet back for right now.

This time, I kept my stuff.

 

[Mirage]

Vlad you did a great job,
I'd like to share whit you something a great man told after a few people dislike and picked apart my winning bank design and Then started making personal attacks on me. He told me

"Listen to your friends. Ignore the haters. Friends matter..."

and you know, he's right

That's not a fair point.

No one "hates" Vlad...some people just don't like the design. He has quite the talent for designing, to be sure. No one hates HIM.

But, I think we all can be considered friends. So if he listens to his friends, he has to listen to both sides. Fair?

Mir

 

[Cear Dallben Dragon]

No one is saying vlad sucks or his design sucks. their saying they dont like the devs choice for winner because it looks like a house in malas.

think objectively people.
Emotions do not exist.

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

Emotions do not exist.

I wish that were true one week out of every month.

 

[Cear Dallben Dragon]

Emotions do not exist.

I wish that were true one week out of every month.

HOOOOT!!!

wait, eww

 

[Omnius]

What ought to have been a highly militant section of the the most powerful city in the world has become an eyesore on the scale of luna... It'd be a nice house design but makes for one ******** bank.

 

[Lord Gareth]

I don't know why I clicked this thread, knowing Greypawn had typed it.

Did he reference all of his time as a seer, and his old friends etc etc? Get over it.

Oh Noxy leave it to you to break it down to simpleness. Looking at this thread. It's not wonder I felt so horrible on UHALL and asked the Devs to remove my bank winner. Vlad I love your design and the water.

(So Draconi hit a water well when he was doing construction and its spouting up the walls onto the roof.)

And is it true you can fish in it? If it is can you throw a net into it? hahaha a way to kill the bank sitters.

Vlad dont listen to these people. Dont take a good job and dont take a bad job. You won and the other designs sent in "Werent good enough" compared to yours.

I like it and have been visiting it on my character Orin.

For ALL of you haters. Post a picture of your house. I want to see your Godly creations.

Noxy you better start leading your shard better or im going to come over there and teach them the word R.E.S.P.E.C.T. (And this is how)

If you think Vlads design is to busy. Well guess what I WILL ENTER THE FAIR GROUND SUBMISSION FOR ATLANTIC and put streams all over and one going right through the Luna Bank. Then Spell NOXI IS THE BEST in Fire on the grass area.

Okay Vlad go sit your butt at your bank and be proud.

 

[Ravahan]

Maybe you should do a run with me. I seem to have pretty good luck, and maybe you can piggy back through the party system (for doom, at least). One of the times ya quit, I think you gave me some deco stuff (that later got stolen when I got PK'd in heartwood of all places on my crafter!), which was awful cool of ya. Anyway, I'm planning on going to Doom tomorrow if you want to ride my skull. ICQ 246-034-670

I know I'm really derailing here, but is Supa still playing?

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

HOOOOT!!!

wait, eww

 

[shanshu]

Maybe you should do a run with me. I seem to have pretty good luck, and maybe you can piggy back through the party system (for doom, at least). One of the times ya quit, I think you gave me some deco stuff (that later got stolen when I got PK'd in heartwood of all places on my crafter!), which was awful cool of ya. Anyway, I'm planning on going to Doom tomorrow if you want to ride my skull. ICQ 246-034-670

I know I'm really derailing here, but is Supa still playing?

Hey thanks! Yeah, I have always given my stuff away. I'd rather see it go to use then be deleted.

I'd love to hunt with you, but during the week I am pretty booked up. I should be on next weekend though, if you are free.

Here are some my pics since I am a "hater". Please forgive the disarray. I haven't worked on it in over a month.

 

[Mirage]

Vlad dont listen to these people. Dont take a good job and dont take a bad job. You won and the other designs sent in "Werent good enough" compared to yours.

There you go. Excellent advice!! This isn't about Vlad, the person anyway.

I'll live with the Devs decision. Just wish they had put up to vote to the players, that's all.

mir

 

[Lord Gareth]

Well then ask the Devs to for the Fair Grounds. But it would be hard since they cant do votes by accounts because ill get 11 votes and you may only get 1 vote. Cant do it on the forums either. So I guess find a way to make the votes fair?

The Fair Grounds can be player voted on if you can figure out a good way to do.

 

[Ravahan]

There you go. Excellent advice!! This isn't about Vlad, the person anyway.

I'll live with the Devs decision. Just wish they had put up to vote to the players, that's all.

mir

I think, for better or worse, I'd like a player vote on future stuff too.

Now, I don't know about this fairgrounds business, but if we DO do a player vote.. be aware that the ferris wheel may or may not be ice hued, and the ponies may be blaze, the grass nox or dryad green, and there may or may not be random waterfalls anyway lol

Just think about the crap people actually pay to wear. *shudders*

 

[Ravahan]

An idea occurs. Perhaps they could do the votes by credit card? I know some games have great success getting rid of botting companies by banning every account associated with the same card, so they must keep track to some degree.

 

[Cogniac]

It isn't that I did not want to enter, but that I could not figure out how to do what needed to be done. I am not the most savvy person when it comes to photoshop or any similar programs.

I think one of the main problems with this entire contest was that the only real way to build a design was to use freeshard programs that are considered so illegal that mentioning any by name will get your posts deleted here on Stratics.

 

[Lord Gareth]

I think one of the main problems with this entire contest was that the only real way to build a design was to use freeshard programs that are considered so illegal that mentioning any by name will get your posts deleted here on Stratics.

Inside UO and Paint

Prnt Screen and line up the West brit bank until its full

Then manually pull each and every single tile from inside UO and paste them into paint.

 

[Cear Dallben Dragon]

For ALL of you haters. Post a picture of your house. I want to see your Godly creations.

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

That immense black statue is suspicious looking. Who is it supposed to represent ?

Who funded the works on the britain bank ? Why did "they" want to bring back people to britain... so we could prostern at Casca's feet ? Even the protectorate refuses to speak of him openly, they dodge all questions like it was a matter of life and death. We don't even know what or who he is, even if he was elven royalty... still noone but the PoV has made an open stand in the community.

What that strange contest ? It could have been ; decorate Lord Britishes castle in many parts, so there can be many winners and we see the creativity of the artists fusioned in the vision and choice of the developpers... much more fun, it took what one dude a day to do this (I speak of the dude in black robes, that dark magus, not the design) ? Don't they have teams of devs available to do just this ?

Tons of people seem to run free servers which can host sometimes as much as 3000 players without a bit of lag, they have screenshots up for everyone to see, some of their work is utterly amazing with half the tools the devs have here. I don't play on those servers but it seems to me like there's a bad deal going out here. How many people on atlantic pay their fee every month, don't they deserve a bit more attention and coherence ? I feel not about the end result, but the concept.

And don't stick (you know who you are) the stupid laws in my face ; volunteers sue UO because they want to get paid ? People make a living off selling gold in a game ? A GM sells for more than 100000USD worth of gold on e-bay and gets caught, and ends up with a 5000 $ fine (oh noes what am I gonna do, prolly call my 10 other friends who did the same thing and never got caught so they can pay it for me) ? You cannot receive my idea because I'll sue you for using it (thats a favorite amongst game support people) ?

"Hi I'd like to submit that you could dye your clothes and hair in WoW (it was beta), I know its easy to program and it would give more creativity to the players, thank you" Reply : "Sorry, now that you've given us the idea we cannot use it as you will sue us for doing so, now you are on WoW support ignore list, there wil be no further communications"

*scratches head* oh yeah I really imagine the judge in court... : "judge judge, they used MY idea that clothes can be dyed, and hair too, it's a copyright concept I wrote it myself."

Yeah right, my ass is blind.

To me all these events and accepted politicisms in gaming are pathetic, downright oblivious, everyone that participates will sooner or later feel terribly guilty, repent now. They shouldn't exist, they should have been prevented by disclaimers and vouchers, there should be reparation ; thats all I know. My reply dosen't target those who simply say accept it it's there and it's nice ; I agree I accepted it the moment it was there and it's nice, it just dosen't fit in context of OLD (hehe I capped that on purpose) UO history and seems an insult to many people who seen the game grow ; it's the concept, not the actual design. I can't repeat it too much it seems, it's the principle.

Some of you people are sounding highly, obviously, teeth grindingly, ear screechingly political... (I think Greypawn and Morgana have made the situation clear and I think they are both right, we've come to laugh about it even) It wasn't necessary to yell louder like the roof was on fire.

I think it's nice, but someone has to pay for that rooftop irrigation system, is it casca ? I'm starting to be highly suspicious.

I didn't even know it was a contest...

It blocked my recall rune...

hehe I'm not serious, but lets be honest, a nice garden on top of british's castle would look much less... umm sponsored and strangely disturbing.

A garden of eden with infinite miraculous fishes, on top of a bank which remains sterile on the inside, it's all getting way too metaphoric. Who controls the populace who think they're in a garden of eden on top of the most popular bank of all times ? The guys thats sclupted in black granit standing 20 feet high ? the new lord and lady of liberty ? How ironic...

No I'm not taking positions ; I don't mind it, it's nice in itself and I don't pretend to be able to judge the mind of people, the whole concept is the dev's fault for not seeing how much people it could affect, even if it's only one paying player it shouldn't happen, and I think it's devious indeed but it's still their game it seems, they don't want to share it with the players (my preciousSs), I still don't mind and still would pay to play but just like in real life... millions of gold pieces have flowed, and thats all we get ?

What, (real life situation) that little piece of road just cost 13 million dollars ? It's between two small towns in the middle of nowhere ; what costs so much ? Oh aspalt is made out of petroleum... did you know hemp fiber remains after using the whole plant for various purposes can be turned into a plastic material much more resistant and durable than asphalt when mixed with simple sand ? It also has better adhesion and no chance of breaking up into dangerous holes ? It would cost 10 times less you say ? SORRY I CANNOT HEAR YOU ; YEAH IT'S THE MACHINERY, ITS TOO LOUD !!!

I know we had expansions, new lands, but hey thats their job ; what I mean is special attention... if people react so strongly here it's because thats the only true thing there is to talk about, of course my discourse is full of sophism and assumptions, so I bow down.

Que sera, sera.

The only reply I will accept to this post is compliments on the perfectitude of my syntax.

Thanks you come again, cha-ching, bingo !

 

[Lord Gareth]

Ahuaeyjnkxs. I guess I did not take into account the OLD ways of brit bank looks and I guess Atlantic uses the bank. We don't on Chesapeake so to change it was a good for us heh.

I do like your idea of Lord Brits Castle room deco. Now that would be so great to see.


:bowdown:

Oh and where is my $3,000 for designing in UO? Dun I even get a Christmas Bonus!?!?!?!

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

Yea !

Where is his freakin bonus ?

What did you design btw ? I'm curious !

All my seer friends got fired at the same time as the rest of the volunteer team back then, we had all put countless hours on making the game what it is today ; it's when we did the seer quests that the number of players went up exponentially, people called their friends who didn't even liked games sometimes because the community mattered so much to them. Plus I don't know for all of them but I know most were paying players too, paying volunteers ! What better could you ask for !

Yeah you do a bit understand I think , but rereading your message I think I sense a bit of sarcasm, which reveals much of your intentions and the bottom of your heart ; sadly, but... anyways.

Cheseapeake ?

 

[shanshu]

Inside UO and Paint

Prnt Screen and line up the West brit bank until its full

Then manually pull each and every single tile from inside UO and paste them into paint.

I tried this but kept getting white space around the tile when I tried to paste it onto the screen shot of the WBB.

 

[Millie]

I tried this but kept getting white space around the tile when I tried to paste it onto the screen shot of the WBB.

In paint under the Image tab ,make sure the draw opaque is unchecked. then when you copy and paste from something it has a clear background.

 

[shanshu]

Ah.....thanks Millie. I had posted my dilemma at the time, but no one gave me that information. Oh well, I know for next time.

 

[AtlanticVlad]

Well I must admit I find that pic at the top of this thread HILARIOUS!!!

First and foremost though I would like to ask that any of you that said you didn't like it please go take another peek, when you first looked Draconi was not done. In my mind hes still not and had you looked at my posts in the housing forums originally you would have known that. I understand that some of you don't think it fit with the rest of the city I will list my reasons for that weather you care or not.

Ill start with the roof since there are the most objections to that. It was to dull as it was and I wasn't allowed to add any floors or deleat any static walls of the bank due to the contest rules or I would have made it a more Financial looking of an institution. Ultimately I decided to make the bank into a better place for bank sitting and try to use the space more efficiently for such so that the bank sitters could spread out a bit more and hopefully also spread out the spam form selling things.

The roof top garden serves to help add sitting space and talking space to the bank outside and to help add some color to the city of Brit. Something I felt was necessary I'd also like you all to please go look at some of the other winners that haven't been implemented yet so that you can brace your self for them. http://www.uoforums.com/uo-general-discussion/58380-bank-renovation-contains-spoilers.html


As for the Lord Casca part and the Black rock statue I though I would try and give them a way to tie my designs into what was happening in our world. I figured the statue could be a good lead in to SA last time I check gargs like to work black rock, and here I'll also throw in my original design I realize some of you still may not like the bank as it is now but I hope you will give it a chance and try to enjoy it I'm never bitter towards any one and feel free if you see me I'm the one with the green hair. To ask me about my houses.

Id also like to add that so far In the 15 or so hours ive been siting at the bank since this has been mostly finished I've not had a single negative comment so when I herd someone say this was up here I was quite entertained. =) well hers my pic =)

 

[Omnius]

no offense, but the thread showing winners that you posted shows that our shards is the ugliest and least appropriate design. Thanks a load for ruining the bank.

 

[Mirage]

Well I must admit I find that pic at the top of this thread HILARIOUS!!!

The roof top garden serves to help add sitting space and talking space to the bank outside and to help add some color to the city of Brit. Something I felt was necessary I'd also like you all to please go look at some of the other winners that haven't been implemented yet so that you can brace your self for them.

Maybe you the rooftop garden would for people to sit around on and fountain would have been more appropriate on the ground somewhere?

Just a thought...no offense intended Vlad.

Mir