See, I would say we have a good community because of the ruleset. We have much more freedom in our interaction, and much more limitation do doing it all by yourself. That's the kind of stuff that friends, enemies, communities get built around. That's why I'm against making siege less siege.
But I think we need to ask:I always wonder why the general tone of improving Siege is "What are we willing to give up." If you make enough compromises sooner or later you have nothing left to compromise
Complaining about complainers I can relate to. People *Pancaking*
endlessly about the 461,917,842 bugs in UO, everything the Devs have ever done, etc etc, has gotten old.
This is my people shooting hat. I shoot people in this hat.
Is "Pancaking" a dance? Like the "Mashed Potatoe"? Please teach us.Complaining about complainers I can relate to. People *Pancaking*
If Changing Siege threads bother you, just ignore them. There are a dozen or so players who enjoy them, let them have their fun.
I find the less I read in these forums, the more I play the game.
I just dont think any of those things will bring players to Siege. Instead of keeping Siege different and unique the devs have continued to dump the same content to Siege as prodo. In all honesty not even item insurance would raise the population, because like Kelmo says "there is item insurance on other shards, go there." People would have more reasons to NOT come here, if Siege had all those things like prodo. They could have been restricting the content on Siege. Imagine if you could just grab 50 of each reg, a few pots, a gm leather suit, and go out pvp'ing. Thats the way the most popular free to play server is, and its awesome minus the fact that it full of people playing with mod'ed clients, and it would be really fun if not for that. Lets face it most shards are ghosts towns now, and I find myself caring less and less to log in and play. If they were to create a new Pre AOS shard with Siege ruleset I guarantee I would be a full blown UO addict again. To bad they have already stated they lack the ability to code something like that, but I think it would make them a lot of money in subscriptions. So please lets stop debating on things to give up on Siege it really is a waste of time.
I got really ticked off at all the complaining and made a post that wound up in the 'Derragatory' or however they misspelled it forum and the B word describing complaining got switched to 'Pancakes' which I found entertaining. I'm easily amused sometimes.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Save yourself from this horrible stress, take the easy way out by clicking 'Unwatch Thread' above the first post above, and your suffering will end.
bump
There is no change that is going to get the shard a noticeable amount of new players. You need to just accept it and take Siege for what it is.
That's your opinion, I sure not share it
I think if they would start adding stuff to Siege that was really unique it would draw more people here. I dont think it would be the numbers Freja is looking to get, but it would be some. I thought the good vs evil thing was something like that. I know it had its flaws, but its stuff like that we need, something thats just on Siege, but its been so long since they did any thing like that. I would be shocked if they made any kind of change just for Siege.
Hey, I would love it if we got some love from the dev's be we all know that will never happen. The most we will get is a tack on to separate publish that changes one small thing that requires little to no work to implement. We are living in a UO development reality where Time of Legends takes the better part of a year. So...
And do you really think that any changes outside of those elements would draw any noticeable number of players away from prodo shards and TO siege? Vendor price changes? Adding in some form of recall? Do you honestly think these are the things keeping people off the shard in any kind of reasonable numbers? I mean the housing change, which was one of those major things that kept getting brought up over the years did pretty much nothing to the population size (obviously or we wouldn't still be having these sos threads) and left the world littered with undesigned unused "placed because I can" houses permanently blocking spaces.
Well, I think you are being terribly naive, but best of luck.Yes I do
I don't believe the defination of Naive fit me.
It can just mean being unaffected, and having a lack of wisdom or judgement, which was the meaning I intended and, to me, considering the realities of the game as a whole (let alone siege) in its current condition, it's an apropos description of these kinds of posts.
No question about that.Maybe, I'm just an optimist
When I came back from a long break from UO I started back on Atlantic. What I saw was a bunch of scripters, people bank sitting 23/7, items costing in the billions, books laying on the ground with sites selling duped gold. It was not the UO I remembered and loved to play. On the way out I gave Siege a shot. Things just mean more here. It was hard starting with nothing here, but it was the only thing as close to the old UO I used to play. I think a lot of people feel that way here, and they dont want to let go of that. Yea, you could potentially get killed more here, you might see less people, you might lose your stuff, but the game will mean more to you here. Creating more fun than I ever did playing Prodo.
I think you may be underselling the positive differences, but they only really shine when the population is a bit more stable. To me it feels much more like you are a part of something.
Amen
If players want, what normal shards already have, you right, they won't play on Siege. Now it's not this players we try to get
Siege do have:
We really don't want players who only come for our good community but want the ruleset to be like on Prodo. Our ruleset do help building a healthy community. Respect is earned here.
I just put my Moonglow Cotton field vendor back up and stocked it with some stuff, nothing high end or really expensive and it cost 8,000+ gold per day. 2 characters per account would be nice and I am not seeing where that would be game breaking, the average player ain't going to drop $100-$500 per account on soul stones and from what I gather most folks have 1-3 accounts. I believe boredom with 1 toon sets in after that toon is fully developed and in order to expand that account you are faced with buying 7-8 stones and then having the wrong set of stats on your one toon to develop other skills. IE. Mage stats are very different than dex stats. So even with a house full of stones the one toon is limited. There should be something in place for housing, if you have a prodo house and a siege house one should be primary and the second need visited and refreshed atleast every 90 days. Was listening to a couple of folks talk about Siege on Atl. the other day and how one had placed a 18x18 on Siege the first couple weeks of the second house deal but could not even remember where it was and had not logged in to Siege since then and had no plans to log in the future. Siege to the first time visitor seems empty and desolate but it is far more active than many of the prodo shards. There is more right about Siege than there is wrong something they can't claim on the Candy Land shards.
that'd be nice!
I would like to see more useful spawn, both in Malas and Britainia. In old days, young players and crafters was hunting in the woods of Britainia.
