Yes, Diablo 3 is finally getting released in a few weeks (maybe). I am curious to know if this is going to be another nail in the coffin.
Ultima Online's greatest threat comes not from other games, but from it's owners and it's own policymakers. It will be gone one day, victim of a long slow suicide...Yes, Diablo 3 is finally getting released in a few weeks (maybe). I am curious to know if this is going to be another nail in the coffin.
Yeah, there is no one game that will end it. There are a lot of games coming out this year and next year which will either draw UO players away, or tie up potential players' time and money, but no single game.Ultima Online's greatest threat comes not from other games, but from it's owners and it's own policymakers. It will be gone one day, victim of a long slow suicide...
No negativity intended... but curiousI am looking forward to Diablo 3, however the tone of this thread is negative so I'm not going to vote and you should consider taking this to OT.
And the game that doomed Warhammer Online was... Warhammer Online. And the game that doomed World of Warcraft was.. World of Warcraft.Note that the game that doomed Star Wars Galaxies was... Star Wars Galaxies.
Depends on the devs... looking back, I'm fairly certain people can think of devs that they rather would or would not have. Also highly depends on the format of the new game. Thus far, UO is really a one of a kind being an open-world skill based sandbox vs the level-zone-theme park model used for everything else of note.Blizzard's next true MMORPG, "Titan" or whatever they are calling it, that ironically has a bunch of ex-UO devs
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Depends on the devs... looking back, I'm fairly certain people can think of devs that they rather would or would not have. Also highly depends on the format of the new game. Thus far, UO is really a one of a kind being an open-world skill based sandbox vs the level-zone-theme park model used for everything else of note.
Supposedly the devs for Titan were pulled from Warcraft and are the best and brightest that helped get World of Warcraft over 10 million players.Depends on the devs... looking back, I'm fairly certain people can think of devs that they rather would or would not have. Also highly depends on the format of the new game. Thus far, UO is really a one of a kind being an open-world skill based sandbox vs the level-zone-theme park model used for everything else of note.
?And Vlaude, if negativity weren't allowed in UHall, there would be no posts It's how its worded and handled that matters.
Wait, isn't DIII free to play (online)? Why would anyone quit UO for a free game?Yes, Diablo 3 is finally getting released in a few weeks (maybe). I am curious to know if this is going to be another nail in the coffin.
Technically, the ultimate "doom" of Star Wars Galaxies was likely Star Wars: The Old Republic.Note that the game that doomed Star Wars Galaxies was... Star Wars Galaxies.
Sony could have kept the license alongside EA if they hadn't botched SWG so badly back in 2005-2006, because they were different settings and because LucasArts has several companies licensing its property for different games. It's no different than EA having a Warhammer license for an online game at the same time THQ has one, only THQ ran into financial problems.Technically, the ultimate "doom" of Star Wars Galaxies was likely Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Not many months out from the release of the latter, Sony lose the Star Wars license for the former.
While it looks fun enough, and I plan on playing it eventually, I was not overly impressed. It looks to me to be a step down from D2. Maybe its not, really haven't seen enough to say for sure.Yes, Diablo 3 is finally getting released in a few weeks (maybe). I am curious to know if this is going to be another nail in the coffin.
I played Diablo 1 some years ago. I ended up not being able to finish. I couldn't play the last level because I somehow lost the economy sub-game, and thus didn't have enough money to get enough equipment to finish it.People keep asking me if I am going to play. I didn't play 1 or 2 so I guess I don't know what I am missing.
I quit chess when they nerfed pawns to only 1 space moves after 2 initial moves....ruined the game. NERF QUEENS.I quit playing Chess when Backgammon came out. It was a much better game before they started using International Chess rules. Chess is so boring now. No one plays that anymore. Backgammon has better graphics and random number generators!
Diablo II was great. Never played the first one, though. Still, hard to imagine playing Diablo II now, what with its grid based movement. Who plays MMOs or MOBAs with grid based movement anymore? Oh...I played Diablo 1 some years ago. I ended up not being able to finish. I couldn't play the last level because I somehow lost the economy sub-game, and thus didn't have enough money to get enough equipment to finish it.
I don't believe you're right.While you can argue UO is more expansive, has more to offer, etc, when it comes down to it both games are of the same genre.
ROFL, you should of just asked if Diablo I or II was a nail in the coffin for UO. I think that's pretty much self-explanatory in itself. Just sayin.Yes, Diablo 3 is finally getting released in a few weeks (maybe). I am curious to know if this is going to be another nail in the coffin.
Could careless about Diablo 3!Yes, Diablo 3 is finally getting released in a few weeks (maybe). I am curious to know if this is going to be another nail in the coffin.
So it's settled? They're both RPGs? I'm aware DIII is more action oriented and UO more sandboxy, but people do not have an unlimited amount of time to play. Most people have restrictions and will have to manage their time accordingly, choosing between one or the other. Unless they're playing them on side by side computers.I don't believe you're right.
The Diablos are action RPGs, while UO is more of a Virtual World.
Perhaps for a person that solely PvEs in UO, Diablo 3 will offer a better experience across the board for that player, but UO offers a much broader spectrum of experiences.
Max Payne 3 will kill UO.Diablo 3 isn't an MMO. You may as well be crying about Skyrim or Call of Duty. News Flash, lots of new shiny games come out all the time.
Per this, any single-player game can kill UO if it happens to capture the same audience.So it's settled? They're both RPGs? I'm aware DIII is more action oriented and UO more sandboxy, but people do not have an unlimited amount of time to play. Most people have restrictions and will have to manage their time accordingly, choosing between one or the other. Unless they're playing them on side by side computers.
D3 might have an impact if it had a monthly subscription fee, but neither it nor Guild Wars 2 do. Many UO players that try one or the other or both will not see a need to discontinue their UO accounts.So it's settled? They're both RPGs? I'm aware DIII is more action oriented and UO more sandboxy, but people do not have an unlimited amount of time to play. Most people have restrictions and will have to manage their time accordingly, choosing between one or the other. Unless they're playing them on side by side computers.
Except DIII isn't single player?Per this, any single-player game can kill UO if it happens to capture the same audience.
The reality, however, is that single-player games and MMOs have different business models and different in-game experiences. It would appear that many people play some of both. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
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It has a single-player mode. You can play the entire game by yourself, from beginning to end. Speaking of ends, UO doesn't have one. D3 does, which is a key part of the differences between the games. D3 is much different from UO.Except DIII isn't single player?
Traditionally the most-basic definition of RPG is any game where your character's power, skills, abilities, equipment, and the like build up and develop throughout gameplay. Per this most basic definition, and applying your logic, we could assume that any new RPG could pose a threat to UO.But none the less has the RPG appeal. It is marketed as an RPG, as is UO. This is my point. When I go to buy a game from Steam, I click "Role-Playing-Games/MMORPGs" because I enjoy that genre, and titles such as these would be found there. People who like FPSs would be less likely to mouse over this when shopping because more than likely, they would click on "First Person Shooters" section. The two would be listed in the same genre
The ability to play through from start to finish in single player is a huge difference. However, the thing that gives Diablo titles such high playtime value is the PvP. The same thing that is real endgame content on UO. Only they have more balance, more control over 3rd party programs and the such. UO has no endgame content to offer, it has ceased to develop, whereas DIII has already mentioned downloadable content.
Edited to point out that it may not end UO forever, however the one year decline in subscriptions could. If any company has a product in the red long enough, they'll sever ties. It's business.
Yep. DIII is f2p, hence no real threat to UO. Also, unlike some other f2ps, DIII is going to be a huge grind if you expect to use it for PvP. I could see people closing some of their multiple accounts for "snacks," but not quit--unless they're done with factions, haha.D3 might have an impact if it had a monthly subscription fee, but neither it nor Guild Wars 2 do. Many UO players that try one or the other or both will not see a need to discontinue their UO accounts.
UO activity might go down a bit, but that's it. Somebody who goes to play D3 will probably come back later in the year.