So you want a classic shard?

[Gunga_Din]

This is how its gonna work.

(1) Nobody should use scripts of any kind. Not to train, not to mine , not to PVP. If you are planning on doing it on the classic shard, then you will just destroy the whole point of having it.

(2) Gold Sellers, the websites that sell **** etc, they are gonna have to respect the shard and leave it alone. I don't give a **** if you make your living off UO. If a classic shard comes out, you must not interfere in anyway.

So those are the 2 things that must not happen if a classic shard is released. Are people gonna honor that? Are the websites gonna honor that? I don't know. My plea is that they leave the classic shard as is. Otherwise, it won't work.

This is all hypothetical of course, but did all those people voting for a classic shard think about all this?

 

[Taylor]

Agreed. But I think that more people oppose the practices mentioned above than you might think.

 

[Woodsman]

(2) Gold Sellers, the websites that sell **** etc, they are gonna have to respect the shard and leave it alone. I don't give a **** if you make your living off UO. If a classic shard comes out, you must not interfere in anyway.

Gold sellers will go where the money is. That's always been a problem with UO. As long as there is real cash to be made, they are going to be involved in any way they can and they are going to try and do it as cheaply as they can - scripts/farming/etc.

Every time I see a rune or book that has the label/title of a gold-selling site, I relabel the rune or toss the book in the nearest trashcan, but the reality is that it's so ingrained in UO, that it would require EA to do something about it, and I doubt they will. I can toss every book I find with a gold-selling site, and there will be more books scattered around within an hour or two.

 

[Tjalle]

This is how its gonna work.

(1) Nobody should use scripts of any kind. Not to train, not to mine , not to PVP. If you are planning on doing it on the classic shard, then you will just destroy the whole point of having it.

(2) Gold Sellers, the websites that sell **** etc, they are gonna have to respect the shard and leave it alone. I don't give a **** if you make your living off UO. If a classic shard comes out, you must not interfere in anyway.

So those are the 2 things that must not happen if a classic shard is released. Are people gonna honor that? Are the websites gonna honor that? I don't know. My plea is that they leave the classic shard as is. Otherwise, it won't work.

The thing is though that the people doing the two things mentioned above don´t really care about other players so asking those people to not do it will unfortunately accomplish nothing...

 

[HD2300]

Why are Classic shard threads being moved to Spiels and Rants?

Cal made them a topic for legitimate forum discussion with his State of the Game 2010 post on Feb 11 last year. If it was ok for Cal to encourage discussion of a Classic shard and participate in these discussions the whole of last year, it should be ok now too.

 

[Gunga_Din]

The thing is though that the people doing the two things mentioned above don´t really care about other players so asking those people to not do it will unfortunately accomplish nothing...

I'm asking nicely. If a classic shard is produced and I see any sites selling gold for it, I'll do what I can to end that party. A classic shard would be considered sacred in my book. Mess with it and you will start a Holy War. This is not a threat....its a warning. Don't mess with the Gunga or I WILL END YOU !!

 

[Beer_Cayse]

Actually of 2 places I am playing one does forbid any scripting/macroing except by the client itself. The other allows a program which is not EA-approved for use, but only that one. <shrug>

I learned UO with the client macros ... am relearning it again. Should I return to EA-land, UOA will not be on my system ... I'm getting pretty decent w/client macros again!

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

Just give it up. If you want a Classic Shard, you are going to have to get it elsewhere. Cancel your account(s), and join one of the freeshards. It is the only way you will get what you want.

@ certain mods: Don't come at me with the whole negativity/trolling thing over this post. There are at least half a dozen posters here that have told me to do the EXACT SAME THING recently, and their posts remain.

 

[Naisikras]

A classic shard would be considered sacred in my book. Mess with it and you will start a Holy War.

Amen, brother.

 

[Fayled Dhreams]

This is how its gonna work.

My plea is that they leave the classic shard as is. Otherwise, it won't work.

*ahem*

I would point out ... THEY as in EA etal ... ARE "leaving the shard as is"

a topic better to have left dead and buried ...
*ahem*

(pending further announcements to the contrary ... it IS still a deadhorse topic with amazing "yes we can" trollbait written allll over it)

As for the recent ( as noted ) Flavor for PROMOTING / advising joining freeshards ...

tsk tsk ... y'all have no honor ...

 

[Morgana LeFay (PoV)]

As for the recent ( as noted ) Flavor for PROMOTING / advising joining freeshards ...

tsk tsk ... y'all have no honor

At least our posts are coherent.

 

[Beer_Cayse]

Agreed. And I have done just that ... I killed EA-based accounts and play elsewhere. I hang here only in the hope some dimbulb in the EA foodchain will wake up and at least give it a chance.

 

[JoO]

whats going on in here?

 

[azrael1982]

Hello fellow players,

I used to play UO a long time ago. Basically in 1998 and 1999. Back then I encountered many issues, such as terrible lags (especially if you had lived in Europe then) and, mainly due to my previous point, rampant PKing. Ultima Online was NOT a game for me. It stood above this term, it meant almost a second life to me.

At the beginning of my UO gameplay, I felt kind of lost. No comprehensive hint sites were available and, besides, my English was quite horrible at that time (I’m Polish, I was 16-17 then). I would die a lot, yet I wouldn’t feel like quitting. Why was it so ? My answer is the following: ultimate player experience. If you were willing to survive, you would have sticked around with other players. If you wanted to solve your impending issues (lore), you would have asked some vets about it. You don’t quit … a second life, unless you’re extremely infuriated or don’t have time to indulge yourself in it.

Some time passed, new duties emerged. I had to quit. However, happily nothing lasts forever – I settled down and decided to return to UO in 2009. You know, I felt like: “Gosh! This is gonna be great ! I will play UO again, after so many years…”. I logged in and …. I pondered: “Where’s everyone ? I chose Europa and there are NO players at the Brit bank ? What the heck ?” Soon I became disillusioned by:

1. The overall lack of players (apart from Luna bank… then?). If you believe, that there are approx 50 000 active accounts nowadays (2011), then you’re in high spirits perhaps.
2. So many new items, so many new continents to explore. It got so sophisticated, that I couldn’t comprehend it within few months period of time.
3. Single player game play. No one needs others to “milk some cash” out of the monsters. There were some exceptions, albeit mainly concerning RP players.

Maybe AOS period wasn’t that bad after all. It introduced the game as more item based. The key word is EXAGGERATION here – the game became too complex within few years time. For instance, SE expansion stood for something redundant to me.

Yet another idea of mine concerns the general approach of the mods team on this forum. Why do you bash people for TALKING (NOT ranting) about classic shard possibility / good old days ?

 

[Taylor]

Yet another idea of mine concerns the general approach of the mods team on this forum. Why do you bash people for TALKING (NOT ranting) about classic shard possibility / good old days ?

Hi. You must be new. There are literally dozens and dozens of classic shard discussions in UHall. Please use the search feature to find them.

I've been using forums since usenet. The moderators on this forum are among the most lenient that I've come across. Because this is your first post in a year and a half, I would like to recommend that you kindly take some time to familiarize yourself with our moderators prior to making judgements. Thank you.

 

[azrael1982]

Hello,

I've been reading these forums since 2009. Indeed, I haven't logged in for a great deal of time, yet it doesn't mean, that I don't read these forums (I've read all the classic shard threads thoroughly by the way). I just don't understand, why such posts are redirectied into rants section ?

Regards,

 

[Black Sun]

Speaking from personal experience, it was probably moved (I wasn't the one who sent it here) because UHall can be a bit more volatile crowd than SnR is for the most part. It's rare that classic shard threads don't degenerate into a group pancake session or people complaining about cheaters & scripters when left in UHall. This one might have been moved to prevent that.

Also, the topic of this thread isn't exactly something that will lead to a productive thread. It's really just one poster's hopes of how a classic shard will run, despite the fact that it would be very difficult (nearly impossible) to enforce his conditions with 100% success.

 

[Taylor]

Furthermore, I do not see any moderators bashing the OP in this thread. I was the only moderator who commented and I agreed with the OP.

 

[Anira Cuilwen]

Hello fellow players,

I used to play UO a long time ago. Basically in 1998 and 1999. Back then I encountered many issues, such as terrible lags (especially if you had lived in Europe then) and, mainly due to my previous point, rampant PKing. Ultima Online was NOT a game for me. It stood above this term, it meant almost a second life to me.

At the beginning of my UO gameplay, I felt kind of lost. No comprehensive hint sites were available and, besides, my English was quite horrible at that time (I&rsquo;m Polish, I was 16-17 then). I would die a lot, yet I wouldn&rsquo;t feel like quitting. Why was it so ? My answer is the following: ultimate player experience. If you were willing to survive, you would have sticked around with other players. If you wanted to solve your impending issues (lore), you would have asked some vets about it. You don&rsquo;t quit &hellip; a second life, unless you&rsquo;re extremely infuriated or don&rsquo;t have time to indulge yourself in it.

Some time passed, new duties emerged. I had to quit. However, happily nothing lasts forever &ndash; I settled down and decided to return to UO in 2009. You know, I felt like: &ldquo;Gosh! This is gonna be great ! I will play UO again, after so many years&hellip;&rdquo;. I logged in and &hellip;. I pondered: &ldquo;Where&rsquo;s everyone ? I chose Europa and there are NO players at the Brit bank ? What the heck ?&rdquo; Soon I became disillusioned by:

1. The overall lack of players (apart from Luna bank&hellip; then?). If you believe, that there are approx 50 000 active accounts nowadays (2011), then you&rsquo;re in high spirits perhaps.
2. So many new items, so many new continents to explore. It got so sophisticated, that I couldn&rsquo;t comprehend it within few months period of time.
3. Single player game play. No one needs others to &ldquo;milk some cash&rdquo; out of the monsters. There were some exceptions, albeit mainly concerning RP players.

Maybe AOS period wasn&rsquo;t that bad after all. It introduced the game as more item based. The key word is EXAGGERATION here &ndash; the game became too complex within few years time. For instance, SE expansion stood for something redundant to me.

Yet another idea of mine concerns the general approach of the mods team on this forum. Why do you bash people for TALKING (NOT ranting) about classic shard possibility / good old days ?

Europa has lot of players but they are just not bank sitting as you are used to most are spread out around the world

 

[azrael1982]

Europa has lot of players but they are just not bank sitting as you are used to most are spread out around the world

I'm not a townie. I prefer wilderness, in fact.

Your last statement is bound with my opinion about the total landmass available to players... to some extent.