Ninja Slasher

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

In reguards to this thread:
[Ninjitsu] - My new template.

do you find your self dying all the time to Slasher and what not for running 0 resist ? If not how are you dealing with the parra attacks. I thought about building up this template but switching it up to run 100 shido instead of LJ, but then I started wondering bout the resist.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

No, just use a trap box.

 

[Ender]

No, just use a trap box.

Doesn't help with the area paralyze when he starts throwing rocks.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Doesn't help with the area paralyze when he starts throwing rocks.

Neither does having Resist.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

Thanks I was told you wouldn't get paralyzed as often with 120 resist. Same with dealing with Blood Oaths from Crugal etc.. etc..

Just FMI, do you see any reason to run resist on this or a sampire template, over other skills? Personally I don't, but I have a friend that is adamant about it.

 

[frostbolt]

Neither does having Resist.

without resist you basically get stunned 100% of the time for 7 seconds with the message
"everything around you dissolves into darkness as slasher of veil's burning eyes fill your vision"
or
"terror slices into your very being destroying any chance of resisting slasher of veils you might have had"

etc.

whereas with a resist of 100 I only get stunned around 30% of the time. and when I resist it I only get stunned for about half a second with the message
"a sense of discomfort passes through you but it fades quickly"

this goes for stygian dragon as well

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

without resist you basically get stunned 100% of the time for 7 seconds with the message
"everything around you dissolves into darkness as slasher of veil's burning eyes fill your vision"
or
"terror slices into your very being destroying any chance of resisting slasher of veils you might have had"

etc.

whereas with a resist of 100 I only get stunned around 30% of the time. and when I resist it I only get stunned for about half a second with the message
"a sense of discomfort passes through you but it fades quickly"

this goes for stygian dragon as well

That's a different attack to the one Ender was reffering to.

Both Slasher and Stygian have the terror/fear attack, that is triggered (sometimes), usually on the first time you run towards them, and (sometimes) throughout the battle once they unflag as monsters in long battles often do. That attack passes sooner with Resist. Also without Resist it applies Mind Rot to the character which increases your mana cost. Easiest counter to this inevitable attack is an Invis potion.

The attack Ender mentioned is the raining rocks, which (like the Stygian Dragon's Dismount, and Medusa's 'turn to stone') is a counter attack that can trigger on ANY damage. Which is why it is infinitely easier to solo than do with a group of people, and a bad idea to use any small damage delayed/damage over time attacks like Hit Spell/Bleed/Strangle. They often use Slashers with different skins in events and with 30+ people attacking it does the raining rocks attack almost non-stop. That attack isn't affected by Resist. It freezes you and blue rocks appear on the floor (not as many as they used to), you can pick them up double click them and throw them back at the Slasher for some damage (again, not as much as it used to be). This can be broken with the Stone Boots/Boots of Escaping or whatever they're called, the same as Navrey/Mephistis' web (also a counter attack).

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Thanks I was told you wouldn't get paralyzed as often with 120 resist. Same with dealing with Blood Oaths from Crugal etc.. etc..

Just FMI, do you see any reason to run resist on this or a sampire template, over other skills? Personally I don't, but I have a friend that is adamant about it.

Yes, with 120 Resist you won't get paralysed at all by the magic spell Paralyze against anything with 120 or less Eval Int. This is different from both of the attacks mentioned above.

In general no, in today's UO I would only run Resist on characters that are dedicated for PvP, I wouldn't bother with it on a spawner whether I use them in Fel or not.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

Yes, with 120 Resist you won't get paralysed at all by the magic spell Paralyze against anything with 120 or less Eval Int. This is different from both of the attacks mentioned above.

In general no, in today's UO I would only run Resist on characters that are dedicated for PvP, I wouldn't bother with it on a spawner whether I use them in Fel or not.

Thanks for the response. I knew about the magic spell Paralyze and resist, I just didn't know how it worked with bosses special abilities IE Slasher's paralyze.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

All that said, I wouldn't actually use that Ninja template for the Slasher, aside from not having it anymore. It's just not really a good fit. There's 3 options I'd use for Slasher:

1) Wraith/Thrower, which I think is the fastest and most effective option.
2) A full sampire, which I'm epically bored of playing and don't have anymore.
3) A Stone Form Macer, probably the slowest option, but fun/involved/busy (i.e. you're not just sitting there hitting Lightning Strike or AI over and over) and you have to think about what you're doing.

 

[Duncan Drake]

I didn´t have true problems with the bushido paladin template (Dragoon) fighting slasher.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

@Lord GOD(GOD), in the other thread you kind of imply you soloed or at least tanked Exodus with your ninja build. If this is so, how are/were you dealing with his aoe spells and his ROC that cant be dispelled. I doubt Exodus can be soloed or even tanked on this template. On another note, did Exodus always summon ROC? Last time I tried him (minus last night) We used bag balls ( and were successful using just two throwers in vampric embrace) I don't recall him summoning ROC. Yes Bag balls were cheep but I got only 1 other person on Baja that I play with.

The AOE spells alone drop all my clones instantly and I gotta wait casting timer to get 1 back up. In that time period death.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

@Lord GOD(GOD), in the other thread you kind of imply you soloed or at least tanked Exodus with your ninja build. If this is so, how are/were you dealing with his aoe spells and his ROC that cant be dispelled. I doubt Exodus can be soloed or even tanked on this template. On another note, did Exodus always summon ROC? Last time I tried him (minus last night) We used bag balls ( and were successful using just two throwers in vampric embrace) I don't recall him summoning ROC. Yes Bag balls were cheep but I got only 1 other person on Baja that I play with.

The AOE spells alone drop all my clones instantly and I gotta wait casting timer to get 1 back up. In that time period death.

Not sure what an ROC is?

I've never solod or tanked Exodus on this template, or any other, or even tried. I posted a picture from an Exodus I went to, but there's clearly at least 9 other players in there.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

My bad, I didn't study the picture that much. I just read the text of the post. ROC was a type-o, Meant RC (Rising Colossus). How I arrived at that conclusion, is you showed yourself soloing Chief Proxy, Blackthorn Macers, Dread Horn.. So I just assumed the Exodus was a solo and didn't even bother looking at the picture closely.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Does Exodus summon RC's? If so I'd have a Hit Dispel weapon, or use Dispel Evil, if that works, or if not just Momentm Strike or just switch to it and kill it.

 

[ysolt]

Technically, you cannot "solo" exodus cause you need at least 2 people before you can even enter and fight it.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Technically, you could, as you could use two to enter but only one to fight it.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

Does Exodus summon RC's? If so I'd have a Hit Dispel weapon, or use Dispel Evil, if that works, or if not just Momentm Strike or just switch to it and kill it.

He does now ;x I went down there with two my ninja and a mystic/mage about 2 weeks ago ( been on vacation), first time in a long time. We had RCs constantly, couldn't be dispelled with mass dispel at all ;x

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

When you solo blackthorn macers, were you doing something to remove their shield. I never hit them, I can set there for 20 minutes and not get a single point of dmg on them cept hit lightning? Don't matter if I can tank them for a year, if I cant kill them.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

I wasn't aware they had any sort of shield, but no, I hit them pretty consistently. I don't think I even had HLD.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

Maybe not all of them do (Ill have to look closer when I go back down there), but the two I was able to separate from the group (1 at a time) last night, had shields and their parry was eating all my swings.

 

[Crimson Hawk Moth]

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

I'm not much of an authority on the captains. I mainly used my Necro/Scribe/Mage, or Thrower/Necro there.