It is because the person who started it shares the same stance as the mods. Further proof of their blatant bias.
the above quote is actually an infraction....
Pet, how about you get your facts straight before you start running your mouth off eh ?
your so called proof is all guess work, you take parts of what others say to try and bolster your claims.
You dont know what i think, so i would appreciate you not jumping the gun and shooting yourself in the foot with guesses.
your poor attempt at spinning this thread to your cause isnt working.
It might work on other forums mate, but it wont work here.
And the more you try and pull this type of stunt, and anyone else for that matter, the further you will push back the pvp thread coming back.
I left this thread open because there was need of understanding and clarification as the the current position of the pvp thread, and it appears that I have to continually repeat myself due to the failure of people who cant, or shall i say dont want to, read and understand what is said.
Dont shoot off at the mouth when you have only read half of whats said, read it all.
when i read the following in the other thread:
Ovrkill, I would like to request that you consider bringing back the PvP thread. I am not personally invested in the thread and hope that I may be able to change your mind on the matter.
The thread was supposed to be a place where the PvPers could talk about their playstyle, and when you began deleting PvP-related posts outside of the designated thread, you limited it to the only place where they could go to discuss it. Now that you've locked the PvP thread, you have basically banned PvP talk from the board. Oceania's multiplayer community revolves primarily around PvP*; consequently, if discussion of PvP is not allowed, then there will be no discussion at all.
If you look at this forum you will see that there has been no posts made for three days. A shard's Stratics board is representative of their community, and to the outsider, this complete inactivity makes Oceania look flatlined. Nobody wants to play on a dead shard; the lack of posts indicates stagnation, and the only way to encourage more forum activity is to revive the PvP thread. You chose this forum. You were a player on Oceania and you knew what the demographics were before you became a moderator. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, by forbidding discussion of PvP you are effectively killing the Oceania representative presence on Stratics.
The PvP thread was harmless. Everybody who posted there knew what they were getting into, nobody was done any serious damage by the insults thrown, there was no sensitive personal information spilt, and as far as profanity goes, all parties involved were remarkably restrained. Yes, they insulted each other. Yes, you did say "no personal attacks." But you also said "no holds barred" and included a disclaimer that anybody reading the thread ought to be prepared for mildly offensive material - and in my opinion, the material was only ever mildly offensive. Perhaps you could moderate it more stringently in future - a moderated PvP thread is better than no thread at all - although in that case, describing it as "no holds barred" would be misleading.
Deleting the PvP thread has harmed the community, widened the rift between Fel and Tram, killed the forum and made a lot of people very unhappy. I am aware that you asked the PvPers to politely request the return of their thread, which they did not. Diplomacy has no place in this situation. To put it in perspective, they want somewhere to discuss killing each other online. They should not have to formally request a place to do this free of restriction; we are a community on an online game, not a corporate business. Anyway, if a polite request is what you wanted, please accept this one.
Please bring back the PvP thread, the forum needs it.
*I am using "multiplayer" in the sense of multi-guild or requiring a large number of other players to participate in. PvM groups, for example, are usually guild- or alliance-defined; they're not so much shard-wide as they are limited to a small number of people.
I had seriously considered bringing it back. It was well written and done in a very adult fashion. I thought you guys had turned full circle and would do the right thing. But after a days worth of rubbish comments and slander, you have dashed the chances of it coming back at all. And this was from both sides of the fence.
I have asked you all over the past few months to prove you are adults and can do the right thing... so far, your proving the opposite.
So it comes down to this....
IF i bring back the PVP thread, and i mean IF, would the rest of you be able to take up the challenge and keep it to what it should be, which is listed in the rules i put on the first post. Because if you go back down the path of pathetic personal insults of a degrading nature to ones real life, i will remove the PVP thread permanently.
and i cant stress enough that this is not, and i repeat NOT, a private thread, so the no holds bared approach will not be accepted.
*note to trammies*
If i reopen the pvp thread, and you decide to go in there and cause trouble to try and get it shut down, you will feel the full blunt force of infractions.
