DCI 5 without Casting Focus

[Tuan]

Hey all, I am trying to reforge DCI 5, without casting focus, but it seems that every time I get the DCI, I get 1 CF also.

I have gotten some things with 4 DCI and 2CF, and just with 2CF, but yet to get just a clean 5 DCI.

I thought these dull hammers would only give 1 prop.

Anyone else had any luck getting a clean 5 DCI piece of armor?

 

[DJAd]

I used a shadow hammer with powerful charge.

 

[Tuan]

WEll, I manages with the dull copper hammer... just took me ~20 tries.

 

[CorwinXX]

shadow/spined/oak without powerful

 

[Tuan]

I did dull copper with structural. It's only a temporary piece, so I don't care too much about the fact that it only has 67 durb, and can't be POFfed.