Well, you know what they say... Scissors beat Paper every time. you just need to worry about more Rocks...P.s. The only way they begin to lose fights is when I log on on my chiv char and counter their whole crew. Pretty funny
Nobody on UO can field 5 archers with such good items And experience and speed... Paithan has to curse, weaken spam and xheal, nothing else
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I haven't been playing and last time I was- even with holy fist not being nerfed- you were getting destroyed majority of fights. This is nothing personal towards you. It is cute that you think so though. lolP.s. The only way they begin to lose fights is when I log on on my chiv char and counter their whole crew. Pretty funny
Nobody on UO can field 5 archers with such good items And experience and speed... Paithan has to curse, weaken spam and xheal, nothing else
Try to fight them with 5 mages u will end up mortaled moving shotted down , they can deal 250 dmg on the run every second
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LMAO. He complains about having a hard time killing a defensive character while playing a defensive character himself. It's no surprise why he wants Remove Curse nerfed.U have a mage with alchemy And healing and parry.... And u cry for one spell of a dexer.... Rofl
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Now, reducing casting speed doesn't have anything to do with the part that's not functioning as it's intended. - That's the important part.
The difference is the "defensive character" he plays, still has a very competitive offense,. where as Chivalry is only good at killing people who don't know how to heal through it.
Can you try at various stages of negative karma? Say -2k, -4k, etc up to -10k, then at -20k, -30k?
But Muchi's a Spellweaving Bushido Parry 4/6 Chiv Dexer, if I remember right. Most of your offense doesn't come from Chivalry alone...For pvp chiv works just with 4fc and 6 fcr and the suit is very hard to do . There are ZERO players competitive ( in offense) on a paladin. The only one is Muchi Muchi Munn and we all know this. These kids want to play around yew and winning all fights without any challenge.
Crying about something created for pvp and pvm in 2003 is crazy . Pvp wet dream of paithan is to unbalance pvp again. Rofl
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Yep, trying some more so far -800 karma fails once but still removes all 7
WTF are u talking about?
Since this is a broader issue than just active PvP types, and relates to anyone who spends most of their time in fel or PvMs wither side. And the opinions of the non PvPs thus far has been very well informed, I would suggest that the PvPs that can only get a jolly killing other players not give their uninformed opinion about how this would affect those outside of PvP. That being said when a non PvP type meets a PvP type in fel and dominates the PvP by evading and escaping that player is then a PVPr and nerfing a defensive spell to compensate for a lack of skill, and knowledge is hardly informed PvPrs commenting. Now I understand it must be very frustrating for someone wearing a cheap imbued suit to escape when you are wearing a Billions gold suit but don't blame the defensive spell, blame your own lack of understanding and ignorance of how to take down the template in question. So keep making the assumption that those who don't get their jollies actively PvPing are making assumptions about how PvP works
You do not get really good at escaping L33T PvPs in top tier gear by not knowing how PvP works yeah, no. if you don't pvp, keep your opinions on pvp gameplay limited to your porous brain. you can't have a well informed opinion on a play style you don't ****ing play. it's really a simple concept.Since this is a broader issue than just active PvP types, and relates to anyone who spends most of their time in fel or PvMs wither side. And the opinions of the non PvPs thus far has been very well informed, I would suggest that the PvPs that can only get a jolly killing other players not give their uninformed opinion about how this would affect those outside of PvP. That being said when a non PvP type meets a PvP type in fel and dominates the PvP by evading and escaping that player is then a PVPr and nerfing a defensive spell to compensate for a lack of skill, and knowledge is hardly informed PvPrs commenting. Now I understand it must be very frustrating for someone wearing a cheap imbued suit to escape when you are wearing a Billions gold suit but don't blame the defensive spell, blame your own lack of understanding and ignorance of how to take down the template in question. So keep making the assumption that those who don't get their jollies actively PvPing are making assumptions about how PvP works
wrong but thats OK I will grant you forgiveness.
Very convincing argument BTW. Since when a PVP engages me I am a PvPr at that point and engaging in a PvP play style then my opinion is just as valid as yours in regards to PvP. Whether you like it or not
Following your logic then you can't have a well informed opinion of the play styles you consider over powered. Even though it has been well established throughout this thread that a Paladin can only kill the most incompetent PvPrs. So my question is are you simply incompetent or just blowing out your backside to enjoy your own brand?
Hellllooo... that is what they are banking on. No one can come up with a valid reason as to why remove curse is that powerful.. so they keep derailing the thread hoping it goes the wayside and devs pay no attention to it. It is very easy to see what they are doing.
I don't have a sampire, thank you.
Yes and the speed at which it does it is where the issue lies. All of those debuffs that is removes (and note when i say all because it removes MULTIPLE) all take much longer to cast than remove curse. There is a big gap.
You can disrupt it, you just don't want to disrupt it as that is not in your play style. Must really suck for guys like you to have to actually earn a kill against a template. Funny that some PvPrs can take a paladin down 1v1 and others cry about not being able to insta kill a paladin and cry about one defensive spell, that is easily interrupted and countered. Now I will throw you a bone, the mana cost should be higher by 2x but that is the ONLY tweak remove curse needs.
That's not an option for him, because if he did that he would lose his 30% sdi cap, making his template weaker vs other mages and archers (the only other two templates out there...).
And the Ilshenar Spawns put back to normal, this is what I'm talking about --- they messed with all spawns because of a PVP whiner and ALL spawns got the nerfstick.
Why do you assume it was a PVPer?
PvP or not the spawn cap sucks and 10 minutes can mean finishing the spawn and getting out or getting raided and whacked.
No arguments here, I was raided both times I did the spawn in the extra time it took to finish it.
It seems everything outside of stealth archers and mages is a *Problem* and without question totally over powered (Sarcasm Intended)
I had to be specific. The other thread got derailed and was ignoring the remove curse aspect.
Well man, the argument never falls on the "why not" it always lands on the burden of "why should we".
My guildmates that use chiv don't want it changed because they know how powerful it is.Rofl Paithan go hide in a corner. U are the only one with a couple of your guild mates to cry abt a spell old 13 yrs
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The why should we is to make it balanced with the curses it removes.
I'm pretty sure you understand that you have to give the argument of why it's not balanced.
I have given the argument that it should not be 2x faster than the quickest cast curse while being able to remove an insane amount of curses at once.
I'm not really trying to argue for or against, I'm just saying you can't expect a (lack of) counter argument as a justification to change something.
I think any proposed changes are based on opinions.
It's helpful to share information like this to paint the background of why "after 13 years" it needs tweaked.
