It's not flawed. I do not deny, that EJ will make it a tad more comfortable. But nevertheless the difference is negligible for a scripter, who does everything completely unattended anyways.
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Just have someone else place it and give you the keys/runes.Well if you can't place a ship it will be hard to use the storageThey can buy the ship and not place it? I dunno what that means lol
Maybe UO changed and people trust each other now? lol I could see the benefit if you have a paid account and wanted to "float" an EJ account. Made a pun. See what I did there
I do agree it won't be a huge difference but it does make it easier for the scripters/multiboxers. If this was the only thing that benifited scripters you wouldn't hear a peep from me. Unfortunatly it's not. Ore and logs have become really a scripter only trade. This publish will also make bods worthless. Also keep in mind that for each account with the 14 day trial they had to regoster a new one. With EJ all those accounts they discarded after 14 days are now useable 100% of the time.
Dungeons Felucca Dungeons & Felucca T2A Yes Power Scrolls
City Loyalty Yes
City Elections & Governorships No
Treasures of Tokuno Style Events Yes
Use Pack Animals Yes
Cleanup Britannia Yes
Zoo Donations Yes
Covetous Void Pool Yes
Basically if they have the expansion they will be able to go anywhere that paying customers can go. Can't wait to see them in Blackthorn farming away
What ever that is supposed to mean, you're wrong if you think, they can get power scrolls...
NO they will be used as fodder to control the spawn just like the old gank squads. EJ scripters/multiboxers pub
Actually @Mesanna said in front of about 200 people that they WERE going to do something about it. So I expect them to do so. OR, they will have a whole bunch of mad players. Just sayin'.
Fixed it for you.
you know: Soon "TM"
Please don't hold your breath.
ROFL She also said we would have a new acct management page...
I am sure the same excuse will be used for why they cant figure any of this other stuff out. As it has been for years now.
I am sure the same excuse will be used for why they cant figure any of this other stuff out. As it has been for years now.
Yeah...I don't understand not having a bank? You can't have a house, you can't have a bank, who is going to play? You pretty much have to live out of your backpack unless you want to be restricted further by using a beetle mount.
I will have to revisit the whole list, but I don't know, there needs to be some way for players to be able to collect things. If bank boxes are an issue only because of storage concerns to server, how about making the bank pay to play? You could do something like:
EJ Free -- Bank Box 50 items
EJ Premium Tier 1 ($5) -- +25 to bank box (75 items total)
EJ Premium Tier 2 ($5) -- +25 to bank box (100 items total)
EJ Premium Tier 3 ($5) -- +25 to bank box (125 items total)
I bet you people would pay $15 up front just for 125 items in bank box instead of 50...but eh
LOL so they are gonna pay $15 for 125 bank storage when they can subscribe cheaper?
So they can't figure out how to fix it until now, what did she do pull a magic wand out her but? I am sorry I have been here for 20 years and I believe about 1% of what the DEVs say they will do.
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They said that at the beginning. They can not use containers. They can live out of a ship if they can use the storage. I guess we will find out when it is live.
Parts of it are. There is a gate on TC1 in the new area in Britain which will set your character to EJ status with the current restrictions.
People should go test things!
OK since you did that. Can they put stuff in a ships storage?
I haven't had the time to do that yet myself.
Do as I say not as I do.
Do as I say not as I do.
I'd say that I was shocked that's how it worked, buuuuut I'd be lying. That's a loophole I'd expect to see fixed, even though I think its kind of stupid that they can't place ships even if they own HS.OK tested it. Cant place ship. But give ship to normal account and they can give you permission to use the ship and storage. So Atlantic will have ships all over the place.
You tested on the big ships, what about the regular ships that do not require an expansion. Can you place a ship and then give the keys to the EJ account.OK tested it. Cant place ship. But give ship to normal account and they can give you permission to use the ship and storage. So Atlantic will have ships all over the place.
Yes you can place a ship with a paid account and give the key to an EJ account and they can recall onboard and use the hold. The EJ account can dry dock the ship. But, the ship still belongs to the paid account. The EJ account can not get a new key from a Harbor Master. So do not lose the key.
If the EJ account buys the ship and gives the deed to a paid account, the paid account can place it and give key to the EJ account and the EJ account can recall and use storage. But, the paid account still can get a new key from harbor master and the EJ account can not.
Seems the EJ account does not really own the ship unless it stays docked.
Im with Dot. This is a bug and might be changed. I read in the 20th party thread that EJ accounts can not use ship holds.
Also, the paid account can not place a ship while the EJ account has the ship out.
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The wording is confusing for some I guess...what this means:Well if you can't place a ship it will be hard to use the storage
Endless Journey accounts may board regular and if purchased, High Seas ships. Endless Journey accounts may not place a ship.
What it SHOULD say is:
Endless Journey accounts may board regular ships, and if they purchase high seas they can board those ships as well but they cannot place any type of ship.
OR something to that effect....
Anyway....it would be nice if they could use a hold but they will get special storage to use....whether it's free or they have to pay a weekly/monthly rental fee for it I don't know.
you're missing something obvious about ships - so what if they can use the ship's hold - they can't use commodity deeds so even if they fill the ship's hold with logs and ore, .... it isn't gonna hold very much - not much of a problem there
logs are heavy and so is ore ... so yeah - they can script for about 15 minutes - big deal
logs are heavy and so is ore ... so yeah - they can script for about 15 minutes - big deal
Ur, I think "real" accounts can friend people and allow vaults to be placed in house.
Yeah--$15 would be one-time fees, that is the F2P model. $10 per /month would get them subscription, so if they only wanted to play one month, then it would be cheaper (except it would be more than $10 unless you average out $59.99)--is that what you mean? Not sure I understand your reply.
But yeah, F2P is about microtransactions, one and done. Sorry, thought that was implied since EJ is F2P (or something close to that, even though they don't want to call it F2P).
Ahh okay, so the vault upgrades are one time only, I thought they wre renting for monthly fees, my bad. Yeah if one time only payment for that it would be cheaper
I'm so lost...thought EJ couldnt access houses. Oh well, if I go, Im gone, won't be playing free, was curious mostly.
The original description said the vault is a monthly fee. When they stop paying that fee the contents go up for auction.
The 20th anniversary post has all this info.
TY for testing. EJ Accounts will just use ships like we did when the shards were over populated to store or extra equipment.
Ah ok, I apologize Uriah Heep--looks like I have a bit of reading to catch up on then before I post more lol.
I do vaguely remember the vault premise, now...ok, guess we will need to see what all that means.
dev need to do something about the use of packies at idocs. there's no doubt people will open 5 or more EJ accounts, friend them all to your paid account and script loot the whole freakin idoc house. ive already seen this kind of activity at idocs. they need stop/change the ability for others to command pets. its just used for exploiting and cheating. get rid of ability the follow command will also help stop, slow down the multibot/char use where if they want to use more than one account, they actually need to use them. not auto follow, hea,l cure ect....
Again, they can already do this so why would it change for EJ?
Well yes people keep saying this however there is NOTHING In the OFFICIAL publish release is there? The ONLY people saying there is going to be a vault of some kind are PLAYERS in this thread. They have put in all the detail about armor and tokens and crap that people can buy but NOWHERE do they put in anything about this vault. Yes, I know that that is what they said in the early days, and how if you had a regular account and turned it to EJ there would be some way you could get stuff out but not put it back and other stuff about it accounts that were abandoned with the stuff going to auction etc etc, but that has not eventuated.
Now if they are gonna have a vault, lets have something official on it shall we? Until then it is just rumour and not based in fact. My post still stands with 0 storage it isn't really worth playing the game, even trial accounts currently have banks.
They need to come clean on if there is gonna be this mythical vault or not.
I would presume that the vault stuff will be added in a third pass to TC1.
As it is, the vault building is just a big, empty Borg cube at the moment. It is in serious need of additional world building and de-forking, regardless of how amusingly easter-eggy it may be.
As it is, the vault building is just a big, empty Borg cube at the moment. It is in serious need of additional world building and de-forking, regardless of how amusingly easter-eggy it may be.
its for all accounts not just EJ. cheating is cheating but nothing much has done. the one thing that should matter to every player is the integrity of the game. its the one thing I expect from any game I play and pay for.
I agree, but they need to stop making game design decisions to fight it and just use common sense and the ban hammer. My point was that why limit EJ for something they are already doing?
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I'm from Missouri ... show me ... prove it.
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I will believe it if/when I see it happen. Until then ... same old, same old.
100% agree. EJ needs to be limited because those doing it since years don't like the competition and also have Mesanna's ear..
Why is multiboxing illegal but multiclienting is legal? Seems like the same thing.
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Because Multiboxing controls all characters at once from one mouse and keyboard and they all do identical movement... Imagine getting ganked by 5 throwers all hitting you with AI at the same time.... etc... not cool.
Where as multiclienting you are controlling each character separately ... when one moves the others are just standing there. You have to switch to the other character to do something on that one... switch back and do something on the next one... etc... While granted you can all strike a mob say your attacking Lady M or something you can set them all up to be shooting at her... but you'd have to switch them out to AI or anything else... heal etc... much more challenging and much harder to do than simply doing 1 action for all...
No they really shouldn't. At least the items people sell for real money had to be farmed up. Start selling them and everything gets really pointless really quick.
This whole EJ thing seems half baked to me.
The idea is to allow people to play and get hooked in a 'free' world and then upsell them to a subscription or to sell them incremental content or access (storage, house etc).
The problem however, is then because of the fear of existing players using second accounts for additional benefit they have stripped down the abilities to the point that I can't see many people playing this game for 'free' with all the restrictions. I mean - the ability to not even be able to store things in a bank box - how do you save gold to buy things? How do you store extra weapons or armor? You have to live out of your backpack? Thats crazy.
I think these EJ accounts will ONLY be used for abuse now as no person would want to play this game without at least a bank box.
The idea is to allow people to play and get hooked in a 'free' world and then upsell them to a subscription or to sell them incremental content or access (storage, house etc).
The problem however, is then because of the fear of existing players using second accounts for additional benefit they have stripped down the abilities to the point that I can't see many people playing this game for 'free' with all the restrictions. I mean - the ability to not even be able to store things in a bank box - how do you save gold to buy things? How do you store extra weapons or armor? You have to live out of your backpack? Thats crazy.
I think these EJ accounts will ONLY be used for abuse now as no person would want to play this game without at least a bank box.
How long haven't you played UO? Gold is a number nowadays, for over 2½ years now. Go check out Pub 90... There is no bank box involved.
There's going to be a vault, which you rent for gold. Plus you're entitled to remove a certain amount of items from your bank box.
Well I guess I was assuming if there was no bank box access I would not be able to PUT gold into the bank. I mean, how do you get it in besides dropping a pile into your box? I don't know that we can test any of this stuff out - we are just going by words in the release notes.
Second - what vault? Is it like a bank box? Is it gold soveirgns or UO gold?